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  • Fins poach Colts PS for Tackle, Ulrich John

    Depth behind Fox? Hopefully, he won't be worse than Fox...



    http://www.draftinsider.net/reports/2014/T/Ulrick-John

    Positive: Versatile three-year starter who's lined up at tackle, center, and guard. Quickly sets up off the snap, display solid footwork, and the ability to slide out off the edge. Stays square, fights with his hands throughout the action, and keeps the defender in front of him. Strong enough to turn defenders from the action and opens holes for the running game. Keeps his feet moving on contact, blocks with a nasty attitude, and works hard. Works well with linemen and effectively recognizes stunts or blitzes thrown by the opposition.
    Negative: Does not sink his butt at the line of scrimmage nor is he a true knee bender. Does a bit of overextending into blocks and too much clutching of opponents. Not an agile lineman and struggles to finish blocks.
    Analysis: John was very productive the Georgia State and comes with a nice degree of upside. He must start doing the little things well but the ability to play three separate positions on the offensive line gives him an upper hand to make an NFL roster.

    http://www.stampedeblue.com/2015/7/1...an-ulrick-john

    John (6-5, 311 pounds) played collegiately at Georgia State, where he appeared in 36 career games (starting 25). He was a two-year starter at left tackle to finish his career, but he also saw time playing at guard and center earlier in his career at Georgia State. He is a guy with good size and has talent, though he's clearly a project player. The Colts don't really need to find a left tackle of the future, but he is an interesting guy for the Colts to work with. His rookie season ended before it really begun, however, as he suffered a broken ankle in the team's first preseason game, causing him to miss the entire season. With that said, John likely wouldn't have made the 53-man roster anyway but instead have landed on the practice squad to continue to develop and continue to work and learn the NFL game.

    The Colts have depth along the offensive line in players like Joe Reitz, Lance Louis, Donald Thomas, Ben Heenan, Jonotthan Harrison (or Khaled Holmes, depending on who wins the center battle), and that will make it pretty hard for Ulrick John to make the roster out of training camp this year. Ryan Grigson does like him, however, and I would expect the Colts to continue to work with him regardless of whether it is on the active roster (unlikely) or the practice squad (more likely).

  • #2
    Cleveland is apparently willing to trade both Joe Thomas, no guaranteed money needed, and All pro center Alex Mack, playing out his con tract. Fins can't afford to trade thier 1st rounder, which will apparently be high, with a 5-6 or 6-10 record. Regarding Thomas, if this was 2-3 years ago, you get him for a 1st round choice. Now you'd have to do a 2nd and maybe 5th rounder. Mack, if you could get him for a 2nd and maybe Fede or one of the McCains, you move Pouncey to guard, and plug in Mack at center.

    Not gonna happen, of course. Why? That would maybe save the season, and that 's a bit too complicated for Ross and the FO. I don't trust Tannenbaum. He'd spend a 1st on both.
    John is another "acorn."
    My .02

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    • #3
      Let's see Pouncey played gaurd last year and played like hot garbage. Back at center this year playing like an all pro again. So why does everyone want to to move him back to guard? Makes no sense to me at all.

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      • #4
        They will all probably end up with the Pats & go on to have HOF-type careers, that would be about par for the course...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by gulfcoast74 View Post
          Let's see Pouncey played gaurd last year and played like hot garbage. Back at center this year playing like an all pro again. So why does everyone want to to move him back to guard? Makes no sense to me at all.
          Hardly garbage, but totally agree Pouncey is more comfortable at center. However, Alex Mack is better, and would allow Miami a temporary fix, as Mack will move on. As it is, Tanny will get killed otherwise, and the run game will suffer with the guard play Miami has. Getting Thomas would solidify the line the next 2 years. Cleveland wants the 1st choice in the draft, certainly a quarterback or D-lineman/LB. Manziel will be cut.
          Be thankful Ray Farmer never got the job in Miami.

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          • #6
            Driven, Thomas already has a HOF type career, but yes, the Pats getting one, or both of those guys seems possible. Especially since NE has the scary ability to trade their LOW 1st round picks (which they don't even have THIS year due to Deflate-gate), and teams take whatever NE gives them, like good little children. Moss for a 6th round pick?

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            • #7
              Perfect! poaching from another losing program.... This FO is the worst yet and it starts at the top........ Landry has been the only bright spot IMO.... Ross needs to fire everybody! Or sell the team.... I really hope we're not good enough to takes us out of the top 10 in the draft... But then again. It doesn't matter with this FO......

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              • #8
                Originally posted by HndRkyaBong34 View Post
                Perfect! poaching from another losing program.... This FO is the worst yet and it starts at the top........ Landry has been the only bright spot IMO.... Ross needs to fire everybody! Or sell the team.... I really hope we're not good enough to takes us out of the top 10 in the draft... But then again. It doesn't matter with this FO......
                Consider that James is out until Dec. Fox is our swing tackle and he has injury concerns of his own. Albert's health is also always a concern.

                There weren't a lot of other/better options out there right now. While no one is excited over Ulrich John, it was a smart move by the FO to find another Tackle in the event something happens to Albert or Fox.

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                • #9
                  The problem I have with this move is we poached an O-lineman that couldn't get on the field on a team that has an atrocious O-line that is worse than ours. While it was smart to add a backup to a backup IMO they should have poached from a team that has a good O-line where the player couldn't get on the field because the O-line was actually good.

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                  • HndRkyaBong34
                    HndRkyaBong34 commented
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                    Exactly!!!!! this FO is horrendous...

                • #10
                  Originally posted by VAIDER5120 View Post
                  The problem I have with this move is we poached an O-lineman that couldn't get on the field on a team that has an atrocious O-line that is worse than ours. While it was smart to add a backup to a backup IMO they should have poached from a team that has a good O-line where the player couldn't get on the field because the O-line was actually good.
                  Unless it's in a trade, you're not getting a Tier 1 or 2 guy from a PS from any team. PS is Tier 3 or worse for all teams...

                  I have no idea why they chose Ulrich from the Colts. I suspect it's because we scouted him a couple seasons ago and he had some attributes that appealed to Hickey.

                  We do know Ulrich was a developmental guy who was coming back from an ankle injury and that he has played multiple spots. Anyway, he's here for at least the next 3 weeks.

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