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  • #1

    What worries me tonight

    Tonight I am worried about our weak secondary. I feel whoever Jamar Taylor is matched up with will have a good game. Also I am concerned about Gronk on our LBs. He is unstoppable against the best LBs and we have lower tier LBs. I am also worried about the running game of NE. Yes the running game. We have looked suspect against the running game (see LB problem) and I expect them to try and change it up and establish the run early in an effort to keep Miami from striking early as we have in the last two weeks.

    On offense Tannehill has to play smart and be accurate, and the O line has to open up running lanes. But the real answer is the D Line has to dominate this game. They have to get off their blocks and stop the run. They have to get fast pressure on Brady so he can not just sit back there and allow Edelmen, Amadola and Gronk to work open. They have to dominate for us to have a shot. If they don't we have no shot.
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    I know many people have suggested putting Jones on Gronk, and I don't want to do that as it would take him away from so much more. I would rather put Aikens on Gronk. Not that I think he can shut him down as I am not sure anyone can, but it frees up Jones and Aikens being a former CB has cover skills. His issues are biting on plays in front of him. I would have no issue trying Aikens on Gronk to start the game, if it's not working change it up, but I would hit him at the line to throw off his timing .

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    • Finatic
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      Finatic commented
      10-29-2015, 10:45 AM
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      The problem is when they go three wide you can't really put one of your top DBs on him.
  • #3
    Originally posted by ONOle1 View Post
    I know many people have suggested putting Jones on Gronk, and I don't want to do that as it would take him away from so much more. I would rather put Aikens on Gronk. Not that I think he can shut him down as I am not sure anyone can, but it frees up Jones and Aikens being a former CB has cover skills. His issues are biting on plays in front of him. I would have no issue trying Aikens on Gronk to start the game, if it's not working change it up, but I would hit him at the line to throw off his timing .
    It seems that people give Gronk a pass off the line, I don't really remember him getting so much as a bump on a regular basis...

    At least it would disrupt the timing...
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    • #4
      That's my thought and your not doing it with one of if not your best player in the back 7.
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      • #5
        I believe that we may benefit from having a big, tough, former TE as our HC in prepping for Gronk.
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        • Finatic
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          Finatic commented
          10-29-2015, 10:46 AM
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          True, that helps scheme wise. But that is not the issue so much as winning the one on one battle with him.
      • #6
        Originally posted by Wulf View Post

        It seems that people give Gronk a pass off the line, I don't really remember him getting so much as a bump on a regular basis...

        At least it would disrupt the timing...
        I agree. Everyone and their dog agrees that Belichick is a great football coach and has one of the best defensive minds in the game. Well, if ALL the experts feel this way, wouldn't it be a GREAT idea to see what Belichick does against teams with great tight ends and emulate what he does against the Patriots? The Patriots beat the shit out of tight ends when they play against them. They do NOT get to just run their routes, they fight them off the line of scrimmage and it works. Why doesn't any other team do this to Gronk?
        "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." - George S. Patton

        “The only thing worse then a liar is a liar that’s also a hypocrite!” - Tennessee Williams
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        • #7
          The key to success lies with our defensive pressure. I am sure Belichick and the boys are working extra hard and figuring out a way to stop the Dolphins NEW and IMPROVED pass rush. He mentioned you can't double team all of them so you know it's on their mind. I think ONE of the ways they will try and keep Brady clean is to get the ball out of his hands as quickly as possible. They run a lot of those annoying plays where the receiver takes one step backwards and Brady fires the ball to him and somehow they pick up a first down using this play, because of the design and execution. The Dolphins need to play the Patriots tight and watch out for the pick plays, they live off them. PRESSURE, PRESSURE, PRESSURE!!
          "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." - George S. Patton

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          • #8
            Originally posted by ONOle1 View Post
            I know many people have suggested putting Jones on Gronk, and I don't want to do that as it would take him away from so much more. I would rather put Aikens on Gronk. Not that I think he can shut him down as I am not sure anyone can, but it frees up Jones and Aikens being a former CB has cover skills. His issues are biting on plays in front of him. I would have no issue trying Aikens on Gronk to start the game, if it's not working change it up, but I would hit him at the line to throw off his timing .
            I agree..I think i'd give Aikens a chance to put his length & his former CB skills to use against Gronk,,may as well give it a go, it's not like Aikens can cover a WR!

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            • #9
              There is one player who could shut down Gronk BUT....... I think mixing Jones and Jenkins on Gronk will work. Could this be the game we unleash the new Jack????????? (cough cough Chris McCain)

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              • #10
                Originally posted by Wulf View Post

                It seems that people give Gronk a pass off the line, I don't really remember him getting so much as a bump on a regular basis...

                At least it would disrupt the timing...
                I've noticed that as well & have always wondered if teams are afraid he'll turn it around using his own physicality to turn it back on the guy trying to jam him..if he tosses his guy effortlessly to the side he's wide open from the get-go. Maybe we should line up OV opposite him and tell him his only job is to put Gronk on his ass; might not work but it may keep OV from jumping offsides every other play!
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                • #11
                  Teams actually do try and bump Gronk off the line but NE does a great job of adjusting and starts moving him around and puts him in motion which makes it tougher to do so.

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                  • #12
                    That's when a linebacker should run full speed up to the line, like timing the rush to the quarterback, and just lay a hit on Gronk as he is running in motion and trying to keep his momentum going up the field. As he tries to keep that momentum going and is met with a 250 pound linebacker, that's got to change your route up a little bit. Brand can dink and dunk all day long but without Gronk his game does seem to be a bit off.
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                    • #13
                      What happens is when they move the LB up to jam Gronk, Edelmen and Amendola slant into the vacated area 5 yards past the line. They really have a brilliant system and we are going to have to be able to cover these guys. So to me the formula is, Jam Gronk and DBs have to cover long enough to allow the D Line to get to Brady, and they have to get there quickly. If the front 4 can get there without having toi blitz then it helps coverage. But man this is really a tough team to beat.

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                      • #14
                        I'm thinking of having extra DB's on the field most of the game to counter the dink and dunk game of Brady's. Edelman, Amendola and LaFell will all be a part of that game tonight. The Dolphins need a strong pass rush but that pass rush won't matter if the ball is being released 2 seconds after the snap. Hopefully the Dolphins are preparing for those quick slants, pick plays, etc. because there will be a ton of them tonight.
                        "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." - George S. Patton

                        “The only thing worse then a liar is a liar that’s also a hypocrite!” - Tennessee Williams

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                        • Finatic
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                          Finatic commented
                          10-29-2015, 12:36 PM
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                          Then you are suspect to the run game. I expect New England to try and establish the run. Big bruising backs like Blount give us fits.
                      • #15
                        Originally posted by DolphinsFreak View Post
                        I'm thinking of having extra DB's on the field most of the game to counter the dink and dunk game of Brady's. Edelman, Amendola and LaFell will all be a part of that game tonight. The Dolphins need a strong pass rush but that pass rush won't matter if the ball is being released 2 seconds after the snap. Hopefully the Dolphins are preparing for those quick slants, pick plays, etc. because there will be a ton of them tonight.

                        I'd almost try playing with one LB and having Aikens shadow Gronk.
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