Coach Danimal poll

[Phishinphin]

What chances does coach Danimal have of keeping the HC job based on this poll?

[Finatic]

I think we come up a little short in this game. I think overall, if we win the games we should win and beat some teams like Dallas and Philly, or the Colts and Maybe split with New England and Buffalo that Dantallica keeps the job.

[Wulf]

If we play with the same intensity and continue to improve, then it SHOULD be a no-brainer...

Personally, barring a meltdown, I say he should get the job. A change without any sudden changes to the continuity would be a good thing! No more "rebuilding for the new coach's scheme",
just keep improving what we have!

[Phishinphin]

What say we now?

"Oh no! We Suck again"!!!!!

[Finatic]

I think Dan has no shot at keeping the job. His whole demeanor has changed and the team has changed with it. It is literally like New England ripped off Superman's cape. We are hearing no more stories about tactics he is using in practice to motivate the team, etc. He looks like a deer in headlights on the sideline. No more fire. He just doesn't have the answers to go with the motivation. He is gone.

[Driven_Phinsane!]

I think Dan has no shot at keeping the job. His whole demeanor has changed and the team has changed with it. It is literally like New England ripped off Superman's cape. We are hearing no more stories about tactics he is using in practice to motivate the team, etc. He looks like a deer in headlights on the sideline. No more fire. He just doesn't have the answers to go with the motivation. He is gone.

Thing is after dealing with boring-ass, stick-in-the-mud Queasy Joe for so-o-o-o long, we all were both grasping & gasping for any breath of fresh air...For one brief second we thought we had stumbled upon a miracle; a savior of sorts...But this isn't Fantasy Island, shit like that don't happen in real life..AT LEAST NOT TO THE DOLPHINS & THEIR FANS!!!

In reality DC never stood much of a chance & who knows, the guy may one day end up a pretty good HC..BUT that day isn't today...So we need to keep moving..Nothing more to see here!!!

[Idahomer]

I'm not advocating keeping Campbell at this point. The real issue is how do you judge Campbell running HIS offense with PHILBIN'S players? The answer is you can't. Campbell clearly wants this team to be a smash mouth, two TE, and possibly a FB offense. I personally think he'd prefer to operate under center in the I formation. Philbin has build a oline specifically to be faster (no maulers) and run ZBS.

The other question you can't answer is how would someone else perform over these 12 weeks? What could Shannahan, Payton, Gruden, etc. done with this exact same group with the exact same circumstances. For all we know all of them would have failed to turn the season around.

At the end of the day I truly believe this decision has to be made without taking the record and results of this season into account. The decision needs to be made based on who is available, and what vision each candidate has for the team moving forward. What players do they want to build around, what players do they want to jettison. Dolphins brass has to weigh all of these factors, then consider what they believe is the best formula for sustained success. You can't discount the respect Campbell has from the players, then again you can't believe the media reports either. At the end of the season each player should be interviewed and asked what type of coach and offense they believe would put this team over the top.

Campbell deserves the same consideration that any other candidate deserves and it would be unfair to judge him on this seasons results since he's trying to fit Philbin's players into his vision. That is not a winning formula for any coach.

[phinfanfrom70s]

the team is so loaded with LOSERS as in the o-line has guys playing that have proven over a couple seasons they aren't 1st and in some cases not 2nd string players, why oh why are they still here! philbin!
miami been hurting for corners,so they draft a couple that have proven that they can't stay healthy or proven they were good enough to start why are they still here,philbin!
miami's defense under nolan,ranked fairly high,in comes coyle and the numbers drop like a stone being shot off a cliff,why wasn't that situation dealt with PHILBIN!
I could go on and on ,but you guys know the situation.
I don't see how people can say he won't get the job because he lost to the patsies and the bills!
yes the win ,loss record is important, but not so much in an interim coach situation.
what's more telling is how have the player reacted, in dan's case so far they have reacted to his coaching in a very positive manner!
mistake when happen ,does he learn from mistakes!
when he sees weakness is it adressed,the very thing that made philbin a failure.
is dan's vision of the team what the dolphin organization vision for the team.
IMHO dan campbell is the perfect coach for this team,his demeaner is the demeaner I want to see in the team I am pulling for for so many years!!!!
I think dan can take his players he is involved in drafting or aquiring and turn this team into an intimidating team teams hate playing against!
so for me it's not about the wins and loses this year it's about the future when dan has assembled his team ,a team that has toughness and DRIVE ,a team when you see the miami logo it makes you think of these guys never give in and fight down to the last tick of the clock and never give,total opposite of this team soft melting ice cream team!!!!

[VAIDER5120]

I'm not advocating keeping Campbell at this point. The real issue is how do you judge Campbell running HIS offense with PHILBIN'S players? The answer is you can't. Campbell clearly wants this team to be a smash mouth, two TE, and possibly a FB offense. I personally think he'd prefer to operate under center in the I formation. Philbin has build a oline specifically to be faster (no maulers) and run ZBS.

The other question you can't answer is how would someone else perform over these 12 weeks? What could Shannahan, Payton, Gruden, etc. done with this exact same group with the exact same circumstances. For all we know all of them would have failed to turn the season around.

At the end of the day I truly believe this decision has to be made without taking the record and results of this season into account. The decision needs to be made based on who is available, and what vision each candidate has for the team moving forward. What players do they want to build around, what players do they want to jettison. Dolphins brass has to weigh all of these factors, then consider what they believe is the best formula for sustained success. You can't discount the respect Campbell has from the players, then again you can't believe the media reports either. At the end of the season each player should be interviewed and asked what type of coach and offense they believe would put this team over the top.

Campbell deserves the same consideration that any other candidate deserves and it would be unfair to judge him on this seasons results since he's trying to fit Philbin's players into his vision. That is not a winning formula for any coach.

I agree with what your saying however you can play smash-mouth football running the ZBS. Campbell changed the mindset of the O-line and now we are much better at it. The problem is we DON'T RUN the ball enough and we run the ball most of the time out of the shotgun. That crap is on "Lazor" and Philbin. The Broncos of the late 90's went to Superbowls without an O-lineman even weighing 300lbs and they ran the ball down your throat.

[Driven_Phinsane!]

I'm not advocating keeping Campbell at this point. The real issue is how do you judge Campbell running HIS offense with PHILBIN'S players? The answer is you can't. Campbell clearly wants this team to be a smash mouth, two TE, and possibly a FB offense. I personally think he'd prefer to operate under center in the I formation. Philbin has build a oline specifically to be faster (no maulers) and run ZBS.

The other question you can't answer is how would someone else perform over these 12 weeks? What could Shannahan, Payton, Gruden, etc. done with this exact same group with the exact same circumstances. For all we know all of them would have failed to turn the season around.

At the end of the day I truly believe this decision has to be made without taking the record and results of this season into account. The decision needs to be made based on who is available, and what vision each candidate has for the team moving forward. What players do they want to build around, what players do they want to jettison. Dolphins brass has to weigh all of these factors, then consider what they believe is the best formula for sustained success. You can't discount the respect Campbell has from the players, then again you can't believe the media reports either. At the end of the season each player should be interviewed and asked what type of coach and offense they believe would put this team over the top.

Campbell deserves the same consideration that any other candidate deserves and it would be unfair to judge him on this seasons results since he's trying to fit Philbin's players into his vision. That is not a winning formula for any coach.

While i get what you're saying Homer, i don't believe the real issue is whether we can fairly judge Campbell running Philbin's team, fairness has nothing to do with it - God knows we Fins fans know life ISN'T FAIR!..I think the real issue is that this team needs an experienced HC who isn't going to make the same ol' 'rookie HC' mistakes over & over (time management, to call a TO or not to call a TO, efficiently running an effective gameplan, etc.etc.etc.) while getting on-the-job training..We had these issues with Cam CaMORON, Fist-Pump Tony and Clueless Joe; it's inevitable when you hire a guy with zero HC experience & i'm sure it'll be even rougher if we ended up hiring a totally green guy like DC whose only coaching experience is coaching TE's the last few years with the Fins...

I know many are against hiring another retread HC and believe me the thought doesn't greatly appeal to me either..But IMO, we ABSOLUTELY need a guy who has some HC experience..None of us are getting any younger so i'd rather not wait another 3-4 years while a rookie works the kinks out..

[phinfanfrom70s]

I know many are against hiring another retread HC and believe me the thought doesn't greatly appeal to me either..But IMO, we ABSOLUTELY need a guy who has some HC experience..None of us are getting any younger so i'd rather not wait another 3-4 years while a rookie works the kinks out..

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I would rather have a young HC like DC to build a team of his liking and yes there will be mistakes and some growing pains but no matter who gets the coaching job ,it will take at least a year or more to draft and aquire the personel to get this team winning .so if that's the fact ,then why not have a young coach learning the ropes during that time and when they get the personel miami could have a coach that will only get better and will be there for years to come,not a coach that will never get better and is probably near to the end of his career to get the experience that some people want!
do we want a fix for a few years or a fix for many years,I choose the latter!

[Driven_Phinsane!]

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I would rather have a young HC like DC to build a team of his liking and yes there will be mistakes and some growing pains but no matter who gets the coaching job ,it will take at least a year or more to draft and aquire the personel to get this team winning .so if that's the fact ,then why not have a young coach learning the ropes during that time and when they get the personel miami could have a coach that will only get better and will be there for years to come,not a coach that will never get better and is probably near to the end of his career to get the experience that some people want!
do we want a fix for a few years or a fix for many years,I choose the latter!

yeah, like i said i'm a bit hesitant to hire a retread, i just feel like we need a guy with a bit more experience (by a bit more i guess i mean 'any' experience) Any way you slice it, it's a crapshoot & it's gonna come down more to luck than anything..I will say though that we can't just assume that DC will get better as he gains experience; didn't happen with any of our last half dozen HC's...

DC impressively won his first two games right out the gates (IMO, these games were won by a combination of riding a super-charged adrenaline wave & facing 2 crappy teams at the perfect time) but in the interim (pardon the pun) he's totally come up short in possibly the two biggest games of the year..It's fine if no one wants to judge DC on wins & losses but we better damn sure judge him on how he faces & responds to adversity & more importantly how he gets his team to respond,, so far, not too good....

[Driven_Phinsane!]

Just read a great article over on the PBP concerning this very topic:

http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/sports/football/campbells-on-the-job-training-doesnt-bode-well-for/npMC9/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=miami-dolphins

[phinfanfrom70s]

if a engine requires racing fuel to perform and get enough performance out of the engine to win or even keep up with the competition ,and you put low octane junk fuel into the tank,your not going to compete with the cars running good fuel,not even if richard petty or jimmy johnson is driving.
like this situation, the winning and losing is really not the big issue.
dan getting these guys to play and win is like that engine running on junk fuel and getting enough power to run well,but it probably won't happen often.
just getting these guys playing and getting 2 wins is telling in it's self.
judging him on how he faces adversity and how he gets the team to respond isn't the whole story either ,with out the high test(players) the team will only do what the team will do no matter who's at the wheel!
again nothing to do with negative performance should be a mark on dan campbell's coaching miami in the future!
choosing a head coach is a crap shoot,whether it being a new coach or a retread coach. plenty of retreads have did fine in one situation and failed in the next!
mark my words if dan campbell doesn't get the HC job ,he will go on and get one and we will look back and say they should have kept him!!!!!!!!!!

[kelbail21]

He has to show competence in addressing people, schemes and strategies that are not getting the job done. How many times can we lose yardage on that little toss play to Miller before we realize we're just wasting a play? How many times do we have to watch Sheppard not be able to bring down a little RB or WR before we say next man up? How many times can our O line fail to get a body on two and three rushers at a time? How many times will we throw the ball short of the chains on 3rd & 3 before Campbell explodes? How many times will our DEs crash down on play action and give the QB all day to roll out? How many times will we line up in a shotgun, spread formation inside our opponents 5 yard line? These are the things I want to see Campbell FORCE improvement on. Wins will naturally come with fixing bad schemes, technically wrong strategies, and players not knowing what their job is. If Campbell is brought back, Tannenbaum better take on the task of ousting Lazor and Anarumo and bringing in two top notch coordinators. I honestly believe Campbell drank the Philbin Kool-aid so long that he is convinced the systems and coaches are sound. The offense and defense are broken. They make no sense and the players demonstrate their confusion play after play. I don't see any way we keep him.