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  • Marvez: Dolphins problems are complex

    Just confirming how weak Philbin was as a Head Coach how much of a mess Ross made of things by extending him. The team has been unraveling for 2 years now.


    http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/m...philbin-100715

    There was a tussle between Landry and now-released running back LaMike James in a team meeting room before the season opener that was reported by FOX Sports NFL Insider Mike Garafolo. Another internal issue then surfaced courtesy of the Miami Herald, which reported that defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh wore sneakers rather than cleats to practice last Thursday to protest the way he is being used in Miami’s scheme.

    The fact he wasn’t sent off the field by Philbin to change shoes was further proof that Suh’s six-year, $114 million contract has given him more job security than anyone else in Dolphins headquarters -- along with a sense of entitlement that privately is rubbing plenty of folks inside the organization the wrong way.

    All of this drama belies the #strongtogether motto Philbin tried to stress in the wake of the Richie Incognito/Jonathan Martin bullying saga of 2013.

    Even if he can unify players once again, Campbell faces another giant hurdle overseeing a coaching staff he didn’t hire and knows will probably be fired at season’s end (if they even survive that long). The assistant with the shakiest job security is defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle.

    Campbell said Wednesday he hadn’t gotten around to deciding whether a change would be made before an Oct. 18 game at Tennessee because he was so busy restructuring the duties of the offensive staff. Not only does Coyle’s unit rank 32nd against the run with only one sack registered, it’s no secret in Dolphins circles that Suh despises playing in his system.

    It’s hard to blame Suh (and he’s not the only defender behind the scenes who is disgruntled). He became one of the NFL’s most dominant defensive tackles playing a one-gap technique in Detroit. The Dolphins are using Suh primarily as a two-gapper, which means he is responsible for defensing both sides of the offensive lineman.

    This begs a bigger question: Why would the Dolphins give Suh the largest free-agent contract ever afforded a defensive player only to take him out of his comfort zone and render him largely ineffective?

    And while we’re at it seeking answers to things that don’t make sense …

    Why would Ross tab Mike Tannenbaum to run football operations last January yet force him to inherit a head coach (Philbin) and general manager (Dennis Hickey) he didn’t hire?

    Why did Ross give Philbin a contract extension last December as Miami was headed toward its third straight season without a playoff appearance under his watch?

    Why didn’t the front office adequately address the offensive line when the weaknesses at guard were glaring?

    Why haven’t the coaches found a way to effectively use new receiver talent -- Greg Jennings, Kenny Stills and 2015 first-round pick DeVante Parker-- provided by the personnel department?
    A lot of us have asked similar questions. Hoping Dan Campbell can get this BS sorted THIS week so the team can hopefully rally and string some wins together.

  • #2
    Seems like Campbell might need 12 years instead of 12 games to resolve all of these problems!

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    • #3
      I dunno... a lot of this was Philbin not addressing problems in a fitting manner or being able to relate to his players. A lot of the issues weren't so much isolated as they were systemic. He should have been fired after Bully-gate. Instead his OL coach got the axe. His offense sucked and Sherman got the axe (from Ross). He's refused repeatedly to adapt to his player's strengths and to put them in situations where they can succeed and win, instead doing it his way. As a result, small issues have become large issues and his team has taken on his passive demeanor and become less and less competitive.

      From Dan's comments Philbin wasn't challenging and pushing these guys to win, he was simply expecting them to do so and consoling them when they didn't. Fk dat.

      I hear ya... Let's hope Dan can turn the culture around and make the changes needed to get these guys performing at a high level. 12 games isn't an insurmountable challenge.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by cuchulainn View Post
        I dunno... a lot of this was Philbin not addressing problems in a fitting manner or being able to relate to his players. A lot of the issues weren't so much isolated as they were systemic. He should have been fired after Bully-gate. Instead his OL coach got the axe. His offense sucked and Sherman got the axe (from Ross). He's refused repeatedly to adapt to his player's strengths and to put them in situations where they can succeed and win, instead doing it his way. As a result, small issues have become large issues and his team has taken on his passive demeanor and become less and less competitive.

        From Dan's comments Philbin wasn't challenging and pushing these guys to win, he was simply expecting them to do so and consoling them when they didn't. Fk dat.

        I hear ya... Let's hope Dan can turn the culture around and make the changes needed to get these guys performing at a high level. 12 games isn't an insurmountable challenge.
        Agree with everything here, well, maybe except for the '12 games isn't an insurmountable challenge' part, lol...The problem is that we've only removed the face of the problem, and the actual problem runs much deeper. Obviously it was a foregone conclusion Philbin had to go, but amazingly he was allowed to leave empty-handed when he should've been forced to take the rest of his garbage with him! It's gonna be hard as hell if not impossible, to change the culture of losing embedded into every one of these players & the organization as a whole when you have the same idiots calling their same idiotic schemes, packages & plays...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Driven_Phinsane! View Post

          Agree with everything here, well, maybe except for the '12 games isn't an insurmountable challenge' part, lol...The problem is that we've only removed the face of the problem, and the actual problem runs much deeper. Obviously it was a foregone conclusion Philbin had to go, but amazingly he was allowed to leave empty-handed when he should've been forced to take the rest of his garbage with him! It's gonna be hard as hell if not impossible, to change the culture of losing embedded into every one of these players & the organization as a whole when you have the same idiots calling their same idiotic schemes, packages & plays...
          I hope not... and if Dan is going to hold the staff and players to what he said in his presser about fixing the OL and DL and to playing more aggressively, on their toes instead of their heels, then I expect that will change.

          Also Philbin never liked a ground game and after Sherman left we haven't had a FB. Philbin pushed his philosophies down on his staff. I'm hoping Dan lights a fire under these guys and we see much better results. We'll see on Oct 18... ;-)

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          • #6
            Ross should own, hire someone to run, and so on and so on, how can something so easy be so complicated

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            • Wulf
              Wulf commented
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              Didn't we have a FOOTBALL GURU in place as VP of FOOTBALL OPERATIONS to run the team when Ross bought it?

          • #7
            Originally posted by Seadog View Post
            Ross should own,hire someone to run, and so on and so on, how can something so easy be so complicated
            He did... he hired Mike Tannenbaum to run the team going forward. His last act of intervention was with his involvement with Philbin. He's now out of the football decisions and Tbaum is running the show. Hickey's future at GM is still a question though.

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            • London Fish & Chips
              London Fish & Chips commented
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              Except TBaum couldn't fire Philbin.....

          • #8
            Originally posted by cuchulainn View Post

            He did... he hired Mike Tannenbaum to run the team going forward. His last act of intervention was with his involvement with Philbin. He's now out of the football decisions and Tbaum is running the show. Hickey's future at GM is still a question though.
            Not sure i 100% believe this...I think that's pretty much the general idea, but i don't think Ross can help himself...From what i read he had to sleep on the whole 'firing Philbin' thing before moving ahead on it & that tells me while Tannenbaum may have pushed for it, Ross could've vetoed it if he chose to do so..I know as the owner he of course has that right but at some point you're gonna have to allow your football guy to make that decision on his own, otherwise what's the point?!

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            • #9
              Originally posted by Driven_Phinsane! View Post

              Not sure i 100% believe this...I think that's pretty much the general idea, but i don't think Ross can help himself...From what i read he had to sleep on the whole 'firing Philbin' thing before moving ahead on it & that tells me while Tannenbaum may have pushed for it, Ross could've vetoed it if he chose to do so..I know as the owner he of course has that right but at some point you're gonna have to allow your football guy to make that decision on his own, otherwise what's the point?!
              Ross was quoted as saying that they made decision to move on from Philbin after the Bills loss - before the jets game. As Philbin only reported to Ross, only Ross could fire him. It was very telling, I thought, that neither Ross nor Hickey were at the table when Dan was named the new HC. They were clearly trying to establish both Tbaum and Dan as the faces and decision makers of the FO and team moving forward.

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              • Driven_Phinsane!
                Driven_Phinsane! commented
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                Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on this at least for the moment...gonna have to wait & see how all of this plays out, as for me i'll believe that Ross can keep his nose outta these things when i see it...

              • cuchulainn
                cuchulainn commented
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                No worries... ;-) Agree on the wait and see.

            • #10
              LOL Suh had every chance in the world to have a problem with how he was gonna be used BEFORE he signed a historic contract. Did it matter then?

              A "fight" between 2 players and what shoes a guys wears in practice means something? Gotta be kidding me, have we digressed that far because of the internet?

              All of these many players complaining had nothing but good to say through camp and preseason. Nothing changed in coaches and schemes but, now everything is wrong because the team is losing and most of these overpriced spoiled brats take little or no responsibility for not being able to block, tackle, throw, and catch. It's all the coaching and scheme, with no inspiration to play.

              Spare me.

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              • #11
                We started by not fixing a broken blocking scheme. Then we ignored the OG positions in free agency and the draft when we had a chance to dramatically upgrade the OL. We drafted a WR #1 that obviously can't run a bubble screen or a hitch route because he hasn't been involved in the offense. We drafted a D lineman #2 that doesn't get on the field, a WR we barely use with our #3. We blew it at CB, started a way below average MLB in Kelvin Sheppard, moved Misi to a position he's already proved he can't play and continued to allow a Quarterback with questionable talent and no heart to drive this offense into the dirt. Our problems run deep alright. Fixing the blocking schemes and learning to win at the line of scrimmage is step one. Let's see if Campbell can get that accomplished.

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