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  • Tannehill....a leader?

    I do like Tannehill. I believe he's been better than a lot of the crap we've thrown out at the QB position over the many years....however, not sure how I feel about this latest story about a feud between the Offense and Defense during the London walk-through.

    If this is true, I'm not crazy about his response. To me, that's not how a leader responds to his teammates. Although - I want to see fire and emotion and some resemblance that these guys care! I kind of hope that is what Dan Campbell is talking about and lighting a fire under these guys and getting an attitude. So a guy like Tannehill needs to lead with stirring a fire - however, in this particular case don't know if that was the right way to go about it.

    It sure didn't make a difference in yesterday's outcome!

    DAVIE - Joe Philbin apparently lost control of his football team far before Sunday's 27-14 loss to the New York Jets .

  • #2
    A train wreck, Suh wearing tennis shoes to practice.....A lot of frustrated people on the field.....

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    • cuchulainn
      cuchulainn commented
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      Well if all Coyles wants him to do is run stunts or stay in pursuit, he might as well wear track shoes. lol...

      Agree on the frustration - and it's with every unit.

  • #3
    I'll say one thing I have noticed, our D even when they make a good play, really get s excited, they seem to care and seem to give each other credit....

    Read and React....what a joke, how about you ready the QB a bedtime story after you put him on the ground......

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    • #4
      This doesn't bother me. Maybe our practice squad should suit up on game day because our starters can't pick anyone off.

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      • #5
        IF this is true - and I'd feel better about it if it weren't coming from Omar or some anonymous source - this bother's me a lot as it shows that Tannehill is way more immature than often credited and that he's starting to unravel and become the next David Carr. Also shows Lazor is out of touch is his offense and QB.

        Wish Chris McCain were as fired up about improving his LB, coverage, and pass rushing skills as it is about running his mouth.

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        • London Fish & Chips
          London Fish & Chips commented
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          Omar must be taking orders from Miko again....now the Brent is laid up, Omar is back in, Miko is telling Omar what to think.....

        • Driven_Phinsane!
          Driven_Phinsane! commented
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          If this is true i'd seriously start doubting whether this is the guy i want leading my team..I know like everyone else RT must be extremely frustrated, but this IMO would make him both a diva & a pussy!

      • #6
        This sound just like a spoiled child who got everything they wanted. I guess we see why so many new people were brought in. Tannehill could not make this his team, the coaches had to get rid of players and anoint him the leader. I'm sorry but the Phins need to look at drafting a new QB next year and let Tannehill go in a year or two.

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        • #7
          So RTs taunt worked and the coaches messed it up.
          An altercation ensured, and after the coaches got things under control, the Dolphins defenders aggressively went after more of Tannehill's passes, disrupting the offense's rhythm.
          When the defenders were told to stop running full speed during the walk-through work the defense stopped running all together during Tannehill's snaps.

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          • #8
            Just some context - in many practice squad and warm up scenarios they run the same set of plays over and over, using the same snap counts and play calls. The defensive guys actually know the calls and what plays are coming, the routes being run, etc... and are able to jump the routes and disrupt the timing.

            In that regard, it changes the context of the story (if true), and telling them to ''take it easy'' might make some sense if your wanting your offense to get down certain routes or work on timing with receivers like Parker or Stills who have missed significant camp time. That said, it seems like the better solution would be to maybe change up the way you're practicing.

            Anyway, it's still a weird report with nothing supporting it. Hard to take it seriously, but it's still concerning that it's out there in the first place... wonder if it's just people kicking the team while it's down.

            As for the jawing, that still seems like jockularity going a bit too far.

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            • ONole1
              ONole1 commented
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              Not to mention it's a walk through, so if the defenders are going faster than a walk through and know the play what do you expect?

            • cuchulainn
              cuchulainn commented
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              Agreed... much ado about nothing. Tannehill shouldn't have made the comment about money, but I'm sure he was hearing all about it from Mouthy McCain and just gave it back to him.

          • #9
            Blah, Blah, Blah...................Tannehill sucks! He is not a leader. He can pad his stats all he wants with his 2-5 yard passes but he isn't fooling enough people for that to matter. If he were more accurate throwing further then 20 yards the receivers would be making bigger plays, the running game would be opened up and the team would be looking better, offensively. Chad Henne 2.0 is NOT the answer.

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            • Idahomer
              Idahomer commented
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              I refuse to write off Tannehill until I see him miss those throws consistently when he has time to set up in the pocket and throw. I get that many don't think he is the guy, but I haven't seen any QB in this league thrive when they are getting hit as much as Tannehill gets hit. Who wouldn't have happy feet playing behind this oline. I mean seriously there were occasions yesterday when Tannehill was hit before he even set up in the pocket - from the shotgun no less.

              I will stay on the fence about Tannehill until I get to see him behind an oline that actually allows the team to run the ball, run play action with an actual threat that the ball may be handed off, and actually get more than 2 seconds to go through progressions and actually allow WR's to work themselves open before having to chuck the ball.

              I've watched enough football to see that our oline is pathetic, much more so than when Henne was here. I'm not sold on Tannehill, but I would argue that no NFL QB could thrive with the offensive line we have supplied Tannehill with - None!

            • DolphinsFreak
              DolphinsFreak commented
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              I disagree. There are many QB's that would be able to take this team, even with this terrible o-line, much further than Tannehill can dream of taking them. He stinks. That is my opinion after watching him play the position for about 52 games in the NFL. Rivers did a fine job of playing behind a worse line then the Dolphins yesterday, throwing 3 TD's and no interceptions. Big Ben could do it. Rodgers could do it. I could name more but you get my point. The difference is, defenses are afraid to stack the box against those quarterbacks because they can throw the ball accurately past 10 yards. Defenses can't cheat and play up close because they MUST respect their arms. When teams respect the long ball, that opens up the running game. The play calling is suspect and the o-line sucks but that isn't why think Tannehill sucks. I have seen him with a ton of time and he still makes horrible decisions. I think he would be more suited playing WR then QB because I just don't think he has the natural ability to play the position. That is my take and I am sticking to it until proven otherwise, but unfortunately I don't think that will ever happen. I was REALLY looking forward to eating the plate full of crow you had in store for me, my friend. I am actually disappointed that he didn't prove me wrong because all this means to me is that we are back the the drawing board, again. We will need to find a new coach who might keep Tannehill around, but I am sure that coach will definitely be looking for a replacement and/or competition for him. If Sean Payton gets fired I would really love to see a Payton/Schwartz combo plate as coaches. Dreaming.

          • #10
            I was for drafting RT, but like this year they did not draft a QB to challenge him, so this coming draft now we are forced to. You have to keep drafting one until you get one.

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            • #11
              From what I understand, a walk through is not full speed. D shouldn't have been doing that. If Tanny gave them a piece of his mind then I like it.

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              • #12
                This sounds like some hack journalist with an axe to grind trying to stir things up in Miami. We've never heard a word about this kind of thing prior. We have yet to hear it from a real source. And MOST OF ALL - as bad as our Defense has SUCKED do you not think if we had people jumping passes and making plays all the time at practice they'd be on the 53? God knows, other than Reshad Jones there isn't a person in the Miami secondary that has looked good. Grimes has been okay. The rest? A joke - if this story is true get the PS on the field.....sounds like they play harder and with more talent than our starters.

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                • cuchulainn
                  cuchulainn commented
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                  Agreed.......

              • #13
                Driven_Phinsane! commented


                If this is true i'd seriously start doubting whether this is the guy i want leading my team..I know like everyone else RT must be extremely frustrated, but this IMO would make him both a diva & a pussy!
                This story and ''team rift'' is now being refuted by people who were at the ''walk thru'' practice and the follow up saying there was nothing to this 'report but some jawing back and forth between McCain, who's known to run his mouth and Tannehill. Tannehill threw a pick 6 and was getting ribbed about it and gave it back. Someone trying to make hay out of short grass.

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                • #14
                  Darlington taking the reporter and this story to task today...

                  Lets put this to bed.

                  Jeff DarlingtonVerified account
                  ‏@JeffDarlington
                  Good luck finding a Dolphins player to corroborate that Tannehill said anything about a paycheck during practice. You won't.

                  Jeff Darlington ‏@JeffDarlington 15m15 minutes ago
                  Reporters running with info from agent(s) on Dolphins stories (including Coyle and Tannehill) in bad game of telephone. Fans: Use judgement.

                  Jeff Darlington ‏@JeffDarlington 6m6 minutes ago
                  So we're letting a 2nd-hand, blind quote from reporter living in Houston dictate reputation of a person without a character blemish to date?

                  Liked his jab at Omar as well:

                  Jeff DarlingtonVerified account
                  ‏@JeffDarlington
                  Well, in that case, it must be true!!!

                  @JeffDarlington I get it what your saying, but even @OmarKelly reported it!!!!
                  Last edited by cuchulainn; 10-06-2015, 11:21 AM.

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