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I want anyone who answers to really think about this before they post. If you were Philbin would you resign? I know what the obvious answer is but I feel like I would resign. I would say I've done everything I can and it just isn't good enough. I would say the fans, the players and the owner deserves better and I would gracefully step aside. What would you do?
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His agent wouldn't let him do that. If he gets fired, he gets paid on what was signed for. -
Philbin once again won't have the ethics to resign and like any player, he would take the financial gain by getting fired like hawk said. After all he won't get anything remotely close to even coordinater. Maybe a position coach somewhere else.The happiness of the Dolphin is to exist.... Jacques Cousteau.Comment
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Ethically you are correct. And you raise and interesting point. If anyone thinks Philbin is enjoying his career you are wrong. I promise you he is under extreme duress and hates being himself each and every day. Each of these losses is a nightmare for him. I would not want to get up every morning and head to the office where things were going horribly and I had no idea how to fix them. I would probably resign at my age because I just refuse to live my life in misery.
But as the others have pointed out, coaches contracts are guaranteed, player's are not. Philbin gets paid his full contract whether he gets fired or coaches. He doesn't get paid if he resigns or gets a job elsewhere. When Gruden was fired by the Bucs, he was one of the highest paid coaches in the NFL for the next 2 years and wasn't coaching. If he took a job elsewhere as a coach, he forfeited that Bucs paycheck for his new one. So he went into broadcasting where he made both checks. Philbin will ride it out to the end. Fortunately for us and him that should be in about 3 more days.Comment
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But you guys aren't answering my question. Obviously he is not going to resign or he would have by now. What would YOU do? I still say I would resign.Can we sign this guy?Comment
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I said I would resign, just don't want to be miserable every day and I don't have the money Philbin has already made. But I would still resign.Comment
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Personally I'd rather walk away while I could still have some dignity left rather than get fired but that's me. I doubt Philbin feels the same.While it takes two to have an argument, it only takes one to walk away.Comment
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Good question KC, and a difficult one for a fan to answer because as you pointed out the obvious knee-jerk answer to any Fin fan at the moment is not only yeah, but HELLS YEAH!!! Problem is i think we're answering it from what we'd hope Philbins answer would be...Thing is, i think if everyone of us were in his shoes we'd probably be thinking quite a bit differently, see, each one of us probably actually feels we could still turn this thing around if we did this or did that, adjusted a bit here, tweaked a bit there...No one likes to walk away from something and be viewed as a quitter, as someone who had their chance and blew it..
As i said, a tough question to answer, not sure what my answer would be under these circumstances..But i'm 100% sure i know what i wish Clueless Joe's answer would be!!!Last edited by Driven_Phinsane!; 10-03-2015, 12:33 PM.Comment
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Nobody likes a quitter... and there's always hope.. As fans we know what "Hope" is, and Philbin hoping he can turn this shipwreck around. Me personally would never quit because failure is not an option.. keep pushing until they show me the door... He should save face and wait till he's fired..... Nobody likes a quitter...Comment
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Maybe so, but if you do something you love and you're a prideful man with integrity, it would be very hard for me to just walk away even knowing everybody around me has quit on me.. I would just become an *******, bench all my starters and let the practice squad have shot...
If you're going to go out, go out with a bang!
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But at some point doesn't that become prideful and selfish? The results don't lie. I believe at the very least I would feel like this just isn't a good fit and/or the timing just isn't right and I need to step down for the good of the team and the organization. There should be no shame in admitting failure and learning from it. We have all failed at times. -
No doubt! Failure is apart of life... But, the NFL has become a selfish league, and that includes the commish to players and coaches.. it's a product of the environment, The problem, even if philbin steps down it will change nothing this season.. And first and foremost he's not going give up those stacks of cash for anybody...That's reality... Ross has to be thinking to himself, this investment has really gone south... Time to sell...
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Didn't Wanny resign? I don't hate him for that, I hate him for what he did while he was still here. Walking away was the right thing to do.Originally posted by HndRkyaBong34 View PostWhile it takes two to have an argument, it only takes one to walk away.Comment
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Agreed and to look in the mirror every day I'd have to live with the fact that I screwed up a bunch of other peoples lives because I was too stubborn to admit defeat. You call it Quitter, I call it knowing when to do the right thing. If that means people look at me as a quitter, I can live with that easier than I could live with my conscience after ****ing up other lives. -
Fair enough, We are talking about a football game, not sending people in harms way to die... just saying...lol
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Thing is that it's so easy to think we know with 100% certainty what we'd do in a given situation..fact is, no one really knows what they'd do if they were in his shoes..I think it's human nature for most to think that they'd be able to turn it around, most like myself are stubborn, highly opinionated & pretty much always think they're right (according to my wife when it comes to me you can take the 'pretty much' out of that last part) so it only stands to reason that we'd more than likely refuse to throw in the towel & only leave the building being dragged out kicking & screaming!Comment
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I understand what you are saying. As I have gotten older I have tried to acquire enough wisdom to know the difference between a tough challenge and just being stubborn. And when my decisions negatively impact others I have to weigh that in too. If being stubborn is only going to impact me, then I am free to be a mule. If I am harming other people then I have to use intelligence to overrule my emotions. -
If i had that kind of wisdom i don't think i'd be a Fins fan anymore...the fact that i'm stubborn as hell & don't care who it impacts is the only reason i'm still here...
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I don't think he would resign. It would be harder for him to get work if he was thought of as a quitter. I can't put myself in his shoes because I would never have gotten myself into the mess he has. I obviously don't have NFL experience as a coach but the moves he has made with his staff have been something that I would never had done and he was willing to get fired instead of firing Sherman. That right there made me lose respect for him as a leader. Sherman sucked and Philbin seemed to be the only who didn't see it, or he would rather be the Captain to go down with the ship before allowing one of "his guys" to be let go. That is not the make of a leader. Not to mention getting rid of all players who show leadership qualities. What's the point of have a leadership council if you plan on getting rid of everyone who can actually lead?"If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." - George S. Patton
“The only thing worse then a liar is a liar that’s also a hypocrite!” - Tennessee WilliamsComment
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No I would not resign. As much as it's a game football is a business and I would not breach my contract any forgive the remaining salary on it.Comment
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I wouldn't resign. I would TRY to change and fix shit. FIX IT!
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No way in hell do I resign. I'm gonna turn things around and make the playoffs.Comment
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