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  • Barry Jackson Sports Buzz Dolphins notes 10/1/2015 - Phillips and Turner

    Why was Jordan Phillips, who has Miami’s only sack this season, inactive against Buffalo? He said coaches told him it was performance-based, that “I’ve got to be better” and “I didn’t do what I needed to do in practice.” He said being inactive was somewhat shocking because “I’m supposed to have a big role on this team.”

    Joe Philbin says he will stick with struggling Jamil Douglas at right guard. So why can’t Billy Turner get on the field? Offensive line coach John Benton wants his linemen to block with the technique he teaches, and Turner hasn’t done it to Benton’s liking.

    “[The issue] wasn’t my production,” Turner said. “Every coach wants things done with their technique. It’s much different than what I did in college, which was straight up power.”

    ''Practice? We talkin' bout practice?'' These fkn coaches...

    Yeah, I get it that you want your players to practice well, but benching them and not playing two young and strong guys who have made plays in REAL games is simply cutting off your nose to spite your face.

    And if that is the case, maybe the team should have drafted OLmen who are something closer to want the coaches want technique wise if they're going to be so GD inflexible about it.

    This is why the coaching sucks and why this damned team is floundering so badly.

    If history repeats itself, Philips and Turner will get cut, go elsewhere, then be highly productive for better coached teams.

  • #2
    Can we inactivate the coaches????

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    • cuchulainn
      cuchulainn commented
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      That would be nice. Sooner the better.

    • HndRkyaBong34
      HndRkyaBong34 commented
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      Sooner as in 2 years ago.... Ross is a incompetent team owner....SMH...

  • #3
    Offensive line coach John Benton wants his linemen to block with the technique he teaches, and Turner hasn’t done it to Benton’s liking.
    Here in lies the biggest problem with this staff. They aren't good enough to change "their liking" to the skills of the players on the team instead they try to take a strength of a player can change them....I am so tied of college and HS level coaches. Why is it so freaking hard to bring a staff in here that can adapt...I just don't get it.

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    • cuchulainn
      cuchulainn commented
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      Agreed. And this sort of BS discourages younger guys from giving a shat about improving. Phillips has the only sack on the team and has flashed several times to where he displayed his ability. He must not be able to run Coyles stupid ass stunts and drop back into coverage on a TE. As for Turner, could he really be worse than Dallas or Douglas. I'm sure Dallas has great practice technique...

  • #4
    This is the root of the problem this team is having.... Coaches Ego's before strength's of a player.. Wow! It's like a General telling a right handed soldier to shoot his rifle left handed... This Coaching staff is just stupid... Complete dumb asses...idiots!

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    • #5
      If there was ever a time to again visit why the Pats are good to great every year, this is the issue. Belichick and team are the very definition of flexibility and innovation. Fun fact is that the Pats are playing 3 rookies on their offensive line yet they somehow survived and even pushed around the big bad Bills D line. Every year we watch the Pats maximize their drafts at the back end of every round, picking guys that fit their philosophy of being aggressive and most important, versatile. Every year we watch the Pats sign a grizzled vereran at a key area of need for them, and that vet plays out of his mind for a one to two year rental and chance to win big. Every year we watch the Pats offer up a slight wrinkle on a big game day.....infuriating the other team, getting all Pats haters in a lather hurling "Cheater!!" Rants at them....but they win. Every year we hear about and see in action Belichick's game day planning and mastery, where its the OTHER team that is reeling after the first 2 quarters. The Pats turn nobodies into solid players......the Dolphins take superstars #3 picks and the best defensive lineman and tamp them down to fit their rigid schemes and preconceived notions about playing football. Second rate Owners pick second rate GMs who pick second rate Head Coaches who pick second rate assistant coaches who dont coach players, and dont do anything different after preseason camp until forced to in the second half after a rout.

      There, i feel better.

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      • cuchulainn
        cuchulainn commented
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        Can't argue any of that... and it all just sucks for us.

      • Kato
        Kato commented
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        For what its worth to supplement my rant above.......look, I am trying to hate the Pats up here, but the Dolphins have got to get in gear....coaches and players
        http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-b...155902845.html

      • Phintim Menace
        Phintim Menace commented
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        You are spot on. I hate Belichick because he loves to cheat caused by a lack of personal character. However, he IS a great football coach. And you are dead right, he looks his roster over and adapts to the talent (or even lack of it) he has each year.

    • #6
      It just shows the ineptitude of our staff that they play guys based purely on what they show in practice; anyone who has ever played at any level of sports knows that sometimes your best players don't practice worth a shit while on the flip-side some who light it up in practice can't translate it to the field when the real bullets start to fly...I get the feeling that this staff wouldn't know real talent & how to use it if it were to knock 'em to the ground & stomp on 'em!

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      • #7
        Don't hold back Kato, tell us how you really fell...LOL

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        • Kato
          Kato commented
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          Nole my friend....I have been saying two things since I have been on these Forums....1, the Fish Rots from the Head, and 2, that the Management Staff and Coaching is Junior Varsity...............it just seems like the players have quit after 3 games....shame on them, but also shame on the rotting JV powers that be....we have anecdotal evidence....... of players coming here and stinking, players leaving and becoming much better, GM and Coaching candidates avoiding what should be a superb job........I feel like Dr. Smith from Lost in Space...."Oh the pain, the pain"..............and just Look at my picture, I used to be handsome...this is what my Phins have done to me
          Last edited by Kato; 10-01-2015, 03:10 PM.

      • #8
        Sounds like desperation to me.
        Can we sign this guy?

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        • #9
          So, what you have here is most all sports writers, sports announcers, sports analysts, ex-NFL coaches, ex and current NFL players, and us, the unwashed masses, believing the problems with this dismal team lies within the incompetent coaching staff. The coaching staff believes the sports writers, sports announcers, sports analysts, ex-NFL coaches ex- and current NFL players, and us, the unwashed masses, are all idiots, and don't have a clue of what we're talking about, and are going to do the same thing over and over to achieve different desirable results this time.

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          • #10
            For about 3 more days now.

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            • #11
              To me, another interesting point is that there have been at least 4 "inside sources" or players publicly criticizing the coaching staff this week. From my experience of these scenarios by the time it starts escaping the locker room it is REALLY bad. This is but the scab on the festering sore. Once this staff is gone you will hear a lot more about just how bad of an environment this really is.

              I can hear these coaches telling Suh, you have a 2 gap responsibility. We want you to play run first. Hold your ground and watch your 2 gaps for a run, stay on your heels give a little ground if you need to but hold back, wait and watch your 2 gaps. Anyone who tells Suh that should be fired. His advantage is his burst for a big man. Mike Westoff said on a radio show that I heard this week, "how hard can it be to coach Suh? You tell him, line up wherever you want and go destroy something!"

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              • #12
                Originally posted by Phintim Menace View Post
                To me, another interesting point is that there have been at least 4 "inside sources" or players publicly criticizing the coaching staff this week. From my experience of these scenarios by the time it starts escaping the locker room it is REALLY bad. This is but the scab on the festering sore. Once this staff is gone you will hear a lot more about just how bad of an environment this really is.

                I can hear these coaches telling Suh, you have a 2 gap responsibility. We want you to play run first. Hold your ground and watch your 2 gaps for a run, stay on your heels give a little ground if you need to but hold back, wait and watch your 2 gaps. Anyone who tells Suh that should be fired. His advantage is his burst for a big man. Mike Westoff said on a radio show that I heard this week, "how hard can it be to coach Suh? You tell him, line up wherever you want and go destroy something!"
                Exactly! Basically you tell Suh just do EXACTLY what you did in Detroit..and if anyone tries to tell you different just clothesline 'em!

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                • HndRkyaBong34
                  HndRkyaBong34 commented
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                  I know! It's like signing Aaron Rogers and telling him how to throw the ball... Makes sense......*Facepalm*

                • Driven_Phinsane!
                  Driven_Phinsane! commented
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                  Actually it's more like signing Rodgers and telling him we need him to be more like Chad Henne...***HUGE FACEPALM!***

                • FinFan in KC
                  FinFan in KC commented
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                  Hulk, smash!

              • #13
                Originally posted by Phintim Menace View Post
                To me, another interesting point is that there have been at least 4 "inside sources" or players publicly criticizing the coaching staff this week. From my experience of these scenarios by the time it starts escaping the locker room it is REALLY bad. This is but the scab on the festering sore. Once this staff is gone you will hear a lot more about just how bad of an environment this really is.

                I can hear these coaches telling Suh, you have a 2 gap responsibility. We want you to play run first. Hold your ground and watch your 2 gaps for a run, stay on your heels give a little ground if you need to but hold back, wait and watch your 2 gaps. Anyone who tells Suh that should be fired. His advantage is his burst for a big man. Mike Westoff said on a radio show that I heard this week, "how hard can it be to coach Suh? You tell him, line up wherever you want and go destroy something!"
                Indeed...

                None of these coaches are a Shula, Bellichick, or even Rex Ryan.

                Instead of Philbin taking the team to watch pop movies, someone needs to give him book on Bear Bryant or Vince Lombardi.

                Even as slow as Philbin and Coyles are, you'd think after 3.3 years they'd realize that what they're doing isn't working and try something else.

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                • #14
                  Agreed, but Westoff was a special teams coordinator. A damn good one but not a DL coach, not D Coordinator and not a head coach. He is no Bear Bryant or Vince Lombardi. If a ST coach can see this it tells you our coaches aren't good enough to be Shula's special teams coach, let alone head coaches or coordinators.

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