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  • Ryan Tannehill: How do we feel about him today?

    Oddly I don't really feel that angry about him. He made a couple of bad throws, and his ball security was bad. BUT... he was abused beyond belief. If we all know that Brady and Manning play worse under pressure I think we can assume so does Tannehill or any QB. I actually feel bad for the guy and he still has my support. I think with better line, and a running game he is still a top 15 QB.

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    I counted more then a "couple" bad throws. I have the game taped and I could fast-forward through the game and count all the horrific throws, and make a point to mention whether he was under pressure or not. MOST of his terrible passes came with nobody in his face, he just threw the ball over players heads, and he constantly threw BEHIND ALL his receivers. Of the top of my head I would guesstimate there were about 10 horrible passes, with about 2-3 where he was under duress. I want him gone. I am hoping the new regime will draft a QB next year. After four seasons with the Dolphins it's obvious to me this guy is not a winner and won't even get the game until he is in his 30's.

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    • #3
      He completed over 50% of his passes for almost 300 yards and 2 TDs. He had 3 INTs but one is clearly on Landry. I am not saying the guy is the next Marino, but I think if you find games with any QB getting the pressures, sacks, and hits he did the numbers look about the same. I mean really? It is amazing he got what he did and that is because he is athletic and was able to escape more.

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      • #4
        His stats are PADDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His completion percentage doesn't matter! He can't throw past 15 yards! He throws 5 yard passes which make his completion percentage look better then it really is. We are not talking about paper football here, this is the NFL. He can pad those stats all he wants with his dink and dunk bullshit but they don't equate to wins. His INT percentage is low because he doesn't take risks and when he finally does throw the ball past 15-20 yards it is either behind the receivers and the DB's or it sails over their heads. It's hard to intercept a ball that is nowhere near being on target. Tannehill is the only quarterback in the NFL, past or present, that does NOT throw the ball differently when throwing a screen pass or taking a shot down the field. He throws the ball LOW and his hardest, with NO ARC on the ball. He has no touch! It's is fourth season and he has no idea how to put touch on a football? I don't even know how he got this far.

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        • #5
          I didn't watch the game..I would have had to go to the Sports Bar again & was feeling it in my bones that we were in for a stomping so i opted out..But i followed the game on NFL.Com's game tracker, watched the lowlights and to be honest my opinion of Tannehill pretty much remains the same; i don't think he will ever be an elite QB, not sure he'll ever be much more than he already is..an inconsistent average to slightly better than average, serviceable starter who can win under the best conditions but will never be 'that guy' who can put the team on his back with the game on the line & carry them..

          People get offended when Tannehill criticisms are flung about and every excuse in the book will be bandied about as to why he doesn't perform at a high consistent level, but IMO we need to look beyond the injuries, the OLine & the stats; i don't believe Tannehill trusts his own arm & abilities to make the big throws downfield, he lacks pocket presence and the only way he'll be the guy to lead this team is if he was given a top 3 dominant D and an Adrian Peterson type back to take the pressure off him..otherwise it is what it is & will remain so...

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          • #6
            RT is the least of this teams problems.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by gulfcoast74 View Post
              RT is the least of this teams problems.
              You're probably right, but that wasn't the question...Didn't see the game (Thank GOD!!!) but followed enough to know that Tannehill didn't single-handedly lose the game; problem is it's becoming abundantly clear that he'll never be the guy who can single-handedly win a game...

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              • #8
                Same way I did yesterday, the day before, and the day before. You can win with him, but you must excel somewhere else. I am not sure he will ever be an elite QB, but more of a game manager. Flacco and others have proven you can win that way, but you better have a damned good defense that keeps you in games...Miami does not.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ONOle1 View Post
                  Same way I did yesterday, the day before, and the day before. You can win with him, but you must excel somewhere else. I am not sure he will ever be an elite QB, but more of a game manager. Flacco and others have proven you can win that way, but you better have a damned good defense that keeps you in games...Miami does not.
                  My sentiments EXACTLY! Though i'll go a step further and say i'm pretty sure he'll never be elite; consistently above-average seems asking a bit much at this point...

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                  • #10
                    I respectfully disagree. I do NOT think Tannehill will ever be a game manager. I agree with you that Tannehill doesn't need to be elite to take a team to the Super Bowl, but I think he needs to improve on so many areas and going into his fourth season not seeing much change in his play that I did his rookie season, I just don't think he has what it takes now, and I don't think he will ever have it. No, I am NOT wanting Tannehill to be Marino-like, all I want from him is to be Eli Manning-like. That's not much to ask. That is setting the bar pretty low if you ask me. But, I don't think Tannehill will ever get to Eli's level let alone a level that will take this Dolphins team to anywhere noteworthy. I am not going to list all the things I feel he needs to improve on, there are just too many to name and I have been naming them for 4 years now. He has pretty good stats. Yay! No thanks! Bring in some young talent, like Connor Cook. There will be a fight for last this season with the Bears, Saints, Texans, Browns, etc but THIS is what gives me hope for the future of this organization, that the new regime will try and turn this ship around and start at the most important position on the field and use some of the veterans as trade bait to get more picks.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DolphinsFreak View Post
                      I respectfully disagree. I do NOT think Tannehill will ever be a game manager. I agree with you that Tannehill doesn't need to be elite to take a team to the Super Bowl, but I think he needs to improve on so many areas and going into his fourth season not seeing much change in his play that I did his rookie season, I just don't think he has what it takes now, and I don't think he will ever have it. No, I am NOT wanting Tannehill to be Marino-like, all I want from him is to be Eli Manning-like. That's not much to ask. That is setting the bar pretty low if you ask me. But, I don't think Tannehill will ever get to Eli's level let alone a level that will take this Dolphins team to anywhere noteworthy. I am not going to list all the things I feel he needs to improve on, there are just too many to name and I have been naming them for 4 years now. He has pretty good stats. Yay! No thanks! Bring in some young talent, like Connor Cook. There will be a fight for last this season with the Bears, Saints, Texans, Browns, etc but THIS is what gives me hope for the future of this organization, that the new regime will try and turn this ship around and start at the most important position on the field and use some of the veterans as trade bait to get more picks.
                      I think our opinions on RT are closer than you think; i've said (IMO) he is what he is and will never be elite..I also agree with you that he plays within a 15-20 yard box and is often able to pad his stats by throwing safe passes - Don't know how many times he's missed big plays downfield because he didn't trust throwing into any kind of coverage, and instead settled for the 6 yard gain on 3rd & 9. But as i've stated before he IMO can be a game manager (A QB whose not expected to carry the team, doesn't necessarily have to win the game..just do his best to not lose the game) but to even be a game manager he needs a dominant defense & a run game...

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                      • #12
                        Blaming RT for yesterday isn't right, I saw Taylor with his hands in the air 15 yards behind the player he was supposed to be defending while the guys was untouched into the endzone.

                        There is enough BAD plays to go around, pick any of the Dolphins players, they all looked horrid yesterday, this is a team that has no respect for their Coaches......

                        Anyone know why the only guy with a sack was inactive yesterday?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by gulfcoast74 View Post
                          RT is the least of this teams problems.
                          This is very true,
                          BUT there ARE still many questions about the guy. He's smart, and seems to learn quickly. He has improved over his rookie season, but it seems that once again, the plan seems to be NOT using his mobility and athleticism.
                          We have no way of knowing what he would look like with REAL coaching/playcalling, and possibly never will. A new coach and F/O will likely want to move away from the current roster if hired in the offseason, which is why I would love to see a change at the BYE week, (or sooner) Get some coaches who will try to work with what we have, rather than trying to make what we have fit what THEY want to do...

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                          • #14
                            Tannehill will win us a Superbowl or I'll send everyone here a gallon of Ice Cream!
                            The deeper the roots, the higher the reach.

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                            • Alavigne
                              Alavigne commented
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                              Awesome....I will take mint chocolate chip please! Tannehill is a DLG - Don't Lose the Game quarterback at best.

                            • ZackVT
                              ZackVT commented
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                              While I'm placing my order for strawberry cheesecake ... I noticed you didn't say anything about him winning us a Super Bowl this year, or next.
                              So I'm in for a loooooong wait. :-)

                            • AquaXI
                              AquaXI commented
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                              You guys know the ice cream comes from hawaii right?

                          • #15
                            Originally posted by Seadog View Post
                            Blaming RT for yesterday isn't right, I saw Taylor with his hands in the air 15 yards behind the player he was supposed to be defending while the guys was untouched into the endzone.

                            There is enough BAD plays to go around, pick any of the Dolphins players, they all looked horrid yesterday, this is a team that has no respect for their Coaches......

                            Anyone know why the only guy with a sack was inactive yesterday?
                            Not sure a single poster has placed the blame on yesterday's debacle at the feet of Tannehill (His arm maybe, but not his feet, lol!)..but the question was 'How do we feel about Tannehill today?' For most of us, no different than we felt going into the game...

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                            • London Fish & Chips
                              London Fish & Chips commented
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                              ok, no different.....

                              Oh...but I would get rid of Jennings

                            • Driven_Phinsane!
                              Driven_Phinsane! commented
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                              Jennings has been a HUGE disappointment; thought for sure with his experience & leadership he'd be a great addition & go-to guy for RT & our O this season...Sometimes i think our culture of losing is so ingrained into this franchise that whoever we bring in turns immediately into a glossed-over turd...

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