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  • PHINZONE POLL: Who Do you Blame for the Bad Start?

    Lots of dialogue about the blame for our bad start, but at the end of the day who do YOU really blame?
    16
    Joe Philbin-Bad game plans, lost the team emotionally, bad game management
    50.00%
    8
    Kevin Coyle-Bad schemes
    18.75%
    3
    Players - Lack of effort and commitment
    0%
    0
    Front Office -Players are a bust!
    0%
    0
    ALL OF THEM!!
    31.25%
    5

  • #2
    It's all of them.
    GM didn't fix the depth and do enough to fix the weaknesses
    Players are not executing on a consistent bases and making to many penalties and playing undisciplined while showing no fire.
    Coaches are not playing to team strengths and have no inspiration and are to stubborn to change things up. It's all status quo which is status blow.

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    • #3
      Ultimately it falls on Philbin for not knowing enough to fire Coyle but I think Coyle is our worst problem. I think with a better DC and just a slightly better performance out of our defense we'd improve dramatically.
      While it takes two to have an argument, it only takes one to walk away.

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      • Phintim Menace
        Phintim Menace commented
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        I pretty much agree with you here, but the difference between a head coach and a coordinator is the head coach hires the assistants including the coordinators. It wouldn't be the first time that a good coordinator failed as a head coach because he hired people that were comfortable and easy for him to deal with rather than the best qualified candidates.

      • Dolfan1
        Dolfan1 commented
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        Absolutely agree PM.

    • #4
      A & B is my true answer.

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      • #5
        Originally posted by DolphinsFreak View Post
        A & B is my true answer.
        Agreed but I could only pick one.
        While it takes two to have an argument, it only takes one to walk away.

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        • #6
          Originally posted by Dolfan1 View Post
          Agreed but I could only pick one.
          Yeah, I picked A because Philbin is to blame for most of this mess AND, since he is the one who didn't fire Coyle when he was afraid to fire Sherman, he deserves to take the blame.

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          • #7
            Originally posted by DolphinsFreak View Post

            Yeah, I picked A because Philbin is to blame for most of this mess AND, since he is the one who didn't fire Coyle when he was afraid to fire Sherman, he deserves to take the blame.
            Agreed. It all falls on Philbin because he lacked the spine to fire Coyle but I still say Coyle is the biggest problem with this team.
            While it takes two to have an argument, it only takes one to walk away.

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          • #8
            Philbin kept Loyal coyle!
            The deeper the roots, the higher the reach.

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            • #9
              Ross. He should have fired Philbin after last season. Ultimately it's his fault.
              Can we sign this guy?

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            • #10
              Coaching........... period!

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              • #11
                All of the above. To this point, not a ONE of them are doing their job....

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                • #12
                  Philbin, and Coyle, but since Philbin is over Coyle, Joe gets my vote.
                  I would also nominate the OL coaches (and Clueless Joe again)..
                  Our HC is supposed to know the O-Line, since that was all he really did in Green Bay,
                  but we haven't had a strong line yet, in his 3+ seasons here
                  Last edited by Wulf; 09-27-2015, 09:25 AM.

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                  • #13
                    Most of you are hitting on one common thread. All of these guys work for Philbin. None of them use plays, schemes or philosophies that aren't approved by Philbin. It is entirely possible that our oline coach doesn't agree with our blocking scheme, but his own designs were rejected by Philibin. He is the head coach, he bares the responsibility for the entire coaching staff, either because he hired the wrong person or he is preventing them from doing what needs to be done.

                    Remember going into last year when we were all lead to believe we were going to a no huddle hurry up spread offense under Lazor like they used in Philly? Why has Lazor changed? Is it because he doesn't believe in Kelly's offense or is it because Philbin doesn't.

                    I think Philbin lacks the tenacity to be a good leader at this level. Always leading from a position of weakness and indecision and his staff and team reflect that. In the NFL you have to fire out and physically dominate your opponent. You have to be confident and aggresive, a hard charger. These are not Philbin hallmarks and I don't think they ever will be.

                    Now with the axe clearly raised over his neck and no room for fear or indecision we will see if it is remotely possible he can ever lead this team.

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                    • HndRkyaBong34
                      HndRkyaBong34 commented
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                      Well said! Joe Philbin and the FO are the only reason for this debacle... Do or die Joe, your number is up...

                    • FinFan in KC
                      FinFan in KC commented
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                      It's still on Ross. Should have fired Philbin after last season.

                    • HndRkyaBong34
                      HndRkyaBong34 commented
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                      Yup! when you have a inept owner, shit rolls down hill.. I agree!

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