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**AquaXI** · 09-22-2015, 05:17 PM

My take on Tannehill is long term. Coaches need to go. I've seen new coaches turn around a team in a year. Can't stand to reward mediocre at best leadership.

**cuchulainn** · 09-22-2015, 05:17 PM

Best game we've played in 2 seasons was when Philbin was out last season for personal reasons.

Tannehill isn't going anywhere anytime soon, but Coyles has been called out repeatedly by players and Philbin's philosophies don't appear to be working.

**DolphinsFreak** · 09-22-2015, 05:17 PM

I highly doubt any Dolphins fan WANTS to start over, but it is what is best for this team. The TALENT is there but the coaches have no clue what to do with said talent and THAT is the reason why people are complaining, bitching and moaning. Everyone on this forum bleeds the same aqua and orange, most of us are around the same age so we have been waiting a LONG time to see the Dolphins turn this around, so a New Start IS the only answer because this coaching staff have proven this to be true. We are ALL hoping that THIS TEAM can turn things around but the reality is that they can't, not with this particular coaching staff. They could prove me and others wrong in time, but that time is running out for Philbin and his staff. If they lose two in a row, like I expect they will, I believe Bill Lazor will be the Dolphins new interim Head Coach after the bye week.

**Seadog** · 09-22-2015, 05:18 PM

While I believe no one wants to start over, the fact is Coyle has no clue what he's doing with the D, OR our players have no idea what to do on Coyle's D.

Either or, after that debacle against the jesters and the same start as last year on D, Philbin is responsible and WILL pay the price.....

Why keep playing .500, (if we're lucky) for the next 3 years, then make a switch....

**HndRkyaBong34** · 09-22-2015, 05:26 PM

We should of cleaned house after "Bullygate" You lose a your team like that there is no excuse... We all want be contenders and wish for Rings.. Some of us like to stay happy and positive and some will bitch and complain... Welcome to the real world..... I would at least fire Philbin just to prove a point that this kind of effort is unacceptable..

**gulfcoast74** · 09-22-2015, 05:38 PM

At this rate this team will be lucky to end the season at .500. Heck we probably won't even win a single game in the AFC East.

**DolphinsFreak** · 09-22-2015, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Seadog

While I believe no one wants to start over, the fact is Coyle has no clue what he's doing with the D, OR our players have no idea what to do on Coyle's D.

Either or, after that debacle against the jesters and the same start as last year on D, Philbin is responsible and WILL pay the price.....

Why keep playing .500, (if we're lucky) for the next 3 years, then make a switch....

The worst part of what you stated above is this.............IF Tannenbaum or Ross were to confront Coach Philbin today about Coyle's horrific play calling, Philbin would back him the same way that he backed Sherman. Philbin will NOT fire Coyle, he would rather get fired himself rather then admit one of his buddies is not a good coach. He is loyal to a fault and unfortunately he will be fired at the end of this season because he stood by Coyle and didn't fire him.

**Kato** · 09-22-2015, 06:09 PM

Cuuuch Blutarski......LMAO....your a funny guy!

**cuchulainn** · 09-22-2015, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Kato

Cuuuch Blutarski......LMAO....your a funny guy!

Indeed... lol...

**FTLDOLFAN** · 09-22-2015, 09:17 PM

If we don't make the playoffs this year and from what I have seen the first 2 games its looking like we will not be making the playoffs then what we need is an "Organizational Enema".
Thats not to say the entire roster can or will be purged but we should bring in a new HC and let him pick his staff and a new GM unless we feel comfortable giving the new HC total control over personnel decisions.

**ONole1** · 09-23-2015, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by So Be

Many are posting that we should replace Philbin, Coyle, Tannehill, etc. This may work if you want 3 or more years to keep complaining and bitching and moaning, which some enjoy.

I have no interest in doing this. I have been a Phinatic for many years, and am getting tired of starting over. I will always bleed aqua but, my patience is at limit to continue the same time and effort on our team.

So, I'm hoping the team turns things around with Philbin this year and get to the playoffs. I believe we have the talent to do this, and think more should be hoping for the same.

A new start is NOT a good answer.

I have some issues with Tannehill, but until there is a clear cut better option I don't want to replace him. I would love to see this coaching staff be better so we had continuity but they aren't. I would rather not have change, but the same with Sparano, I don't want to see them keep spinning their wheels with a coaching staff that will never bring this team close to being a contender.

You are the cap guru around here, and if they are going to make the change and bring in a new scheme, then this off-season would be a good time as there are a lot of players with high salary that need to be evaluated to see if they should be kept. Unfortunately this team may be going through a rebuild next year with a new staff or not...

**ONole1** · 09-23-2015, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by cuchulainn

Best game we've played in 2 seasons was when Philbin was out last season for personal reasons.

Tannehill isn't going anywhere anytime soon, but Coyles has been called out repeatedly by players and Philbin's philosophies don't appear to be working.

I would like to see Tannehill in a different system. I think Shanahan would be a great fit for him as you know he would fix the offensive line and the running game. I am not saying Tannehill is Elway or ever will be, but he has a VERY similar skill set and Elway never won until Denver balanced out the offense and had him throwing less and using more play action.

I still think Parker was the right pick this year, but they didn't address the line, and the players they have are all finesse players. Douglas I think can be very good, but they need to put him at his position at LG and let him play. Fix the line with a power blocking RG and they are going to have to draft a starting LT next year. James is a decent RT, but he's not power, so not sure what I would do with him right now. I want to see the Dolphin linemen firing off the line and knocking people on their asses not sliding down the line and trying to hold a block...screw that crap...

**cuchulainn** · 09-23-2015, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by ONOle1

I would like to see Tannehill in a different system. I think Shanahan would be a great fit for him as you know he would fix the offensive line and the running game. I am not saying Tannehill is Elway or ever will be, but he has a VERY similar skill set and Elway never won until Denver balanced out the offense and had him throwing less and using more play action.

I still think Parker was the right pick this year, but they didn't address the line, and the players they have are all finesse players. Douglas I think can be very good, but they need to put him at his position at LG and let him play. Fix the line with a power blocking RG and they are going to have to draft a starting LT next year. James is a decent RT, but he's not power, so not sure what I would do with him right now. I want to see the Dolphin linemen firing off the line and knocking people on their asses not sliding down the line and trying to hold a block...screw that crap...

I agree for the most part. While I like a lot of what Lazor has done his play calling has sucked the past two games, especially in the RZ. If we were to get Shanny from the Falcons, it'd be interesting to see what they did with Tanny and the offense, especially now that we have Landry, Parker, Ajayi, and Cameron on the roster - provided Parker, Ajayi, and Cameron can stay healthy. Cameron pulled his groin against the Jags. Parker has the foot issue, and Ajayi is recovering from the chest injury. This team is snakebit...

On the OL, I think they were in a Catch-22 with Albert, Dallas, and Turner. Hickey invested heavily in Albert, who can't stay healthy, and they had to see what they had in Dallas and Turner this season before writing them off and moving on. The problem with Turner is that he is a Tackle, not a Guard and missed almost all of last year with the toe and ankle injuries.

**Phin4Ever** · 09-23-2015, 03:05 PM

Douglas has show flashes of promise along with a long learning curb. At this point it is what it is. There aren't really any good OL out there. Nothing we can do at this point. That's our OL for the year till next year and I can guarantee we'll be drafting a OL in the first round unless a stud RB is there like we were wanting in Gurley this year. But overall, The weak spots are the guards and we knew that coming in and on top of that we never have a plan in place for Albert. The problem with this organization is they don't think back up. There is no one to play Albert's position. Fox was horrid last week in playing LT. Looked like a deer in headlights as Odrick ate his meal all day. Without Albert, this OL goes to scraps and is lost.

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