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  • Suh Biggest Dolphin FA Bust Ever

    Sorry, but at this point he is. Two games and he has three total tackles. If he doesn't find his game he will be the biggest FA bust in NFL history surpassing Albert Haynesworth. He is stealing his record salary.

  • #2
    is it him or the defensive scheme he plays in?
    coyle isn't finding a way to get him in the right situations that allow him to succeed!
    coyle figured the situation out. you don't think rex ryan couldn't find a way the get suh into the play or because of suh someone else would be having a field day!

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    • #3
      This coaching staff is horrible. Looks like we Dolphin fans are are on the back burner for another few years and a new coach (Eric Mangini is my bet) will want his people that fit his scheme (3-4)...

      It's not like Suh isn't playing hard or practicing hard, he just seems to be out of position. Haynesworth cashed it in as soon as he got paid.

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      • cuchulainn
        cuchulainn commented
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        Agree on all accounts. We already know Ross has brought Mangini in before as a consultant and there were rumors after bully-gate that Mangini was Ross' choice to replace Phibin if it had come to that.

    • #4
      suh is going to get frustrated and then bad things will start happening and it won't be in miami's favor!

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      • #5
        Scheme?? For the most part he was just handled one on one. You should have to trick and scheme a $114M player to beat his one on one blocks.

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        • #6
          he was handled one on one against Jax. What a disaster. meanwhile, Odrick all over the place making plays........

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          • #7
            There are only two players on defense making their pay. Grimes and Jones. Everyone else needs to wake up and Coyle needs to ride off into the sunset!!

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            • Alpha
              Alpha commented
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              Jenkins too....moreso than Grimes even.

          • #8
            I have to agree with Mando here. We have all seen Suh play and we all know how dominant of a player he is, so how is it he comes here and in the first two games he has been...well almost non-existent? This is not a case where Suh took the money and ran, he has worked hard and is playing hard, but something isn't right on this defense and we all know where it starts and ends...Kevin Coyle.



            Now, anyone can argue Coyle did not miss a tackle, did not blow an assignment, did not fail in getting to the quarterback once Sunday and be correct. It is about players in the NFL, and Dolphins defenders point to themselves first.
            But I know Ndamukong Suh is a good player. I’ve seen it for years in Detroit. The Miami personnel department obviously saw it and thought paying him $114 million was worthwhile.

            And then this, this, this dominant presence comes to the Dolphins and he disappears in Coyle’s defense?
            “I’ll take a closer look at the film,” Philbin said of the now former star defensive tackle. “He made a couple of plays; I don’t know what the stat sheet said. We’ll take a closer look at the tape. It’s a team defense, it’s not one person. One person doesn’t make a defense. There’s 11 guys that have to make a defense.”

            That’s true. But one guy can take over a game. And late Sunday that was Jared Odrick, the former Miami defensive tackle who signed with the Jaguars in the offseason.
            Miami’s castoff player hit Ryan Tannehill in the end zone and caused a fumble on the sack. On the next play he batted a Tannehill pass away to force an incompletion.
            So basically what we have witnessed so far this season is Jared Odrick play better against the Dolphins than he ever played for the Dolphins. And we’ve seen Suh come to Miami as a star and potential future Hall of Famer and become a pedestrian player.
            A one-solo-tackle (Suh’s output each of the first two games) guy.
            This is not on those players. This is on that decision Joe Philbin made on Kevin Coyle.

            Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/sp...#storylink=cpy

            http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/sp...e35936184.html

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            • #9
              So it's only taken Suh two games to see what Odrick and others were complaining about for two years. I understand Suh freelancing hurts, but Coyle's system sucks and does not put players in a position to make plays.


              Miami Dolphins defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh disregarded play calls from defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle in the team’s loss to the Jaguars on Sunday,reports the Miami Herald. By “freelancing” at times, Suh created confusion on the Dolphins defensive line, the Herald reports.
              Suh signed a six-year, $114 million contract with the Dolphins this off-season after spending the first five years of his career with the Lions. His acquisition was expected to vastly improve the Dolphins defense, but so far he has made minimal impact.
              In two games, Suh has made only two tackles and one assist with no sacks.The Dolphins defense as a whole did not record a sack on Sunday, and allowed 396 yards. The defenders did not force an interception from Jacksonville quarterbackBlake Bortles.
              When asked about his lack of contribution, Suh could provide little explanation.
              “I couldn’t tell you,” Suh said. “At the end of the day, we have to go back to the drawing board and figure out what we want to run so guys can make plays and go from there.”
              Suh left the game in the second quarter with an apparent leg injury, but returned shortly after with just under two minutes left in the quarter.
              Miami lost by a score of 23–20 and now have a 1–1 record. Next week, the team faces the Buffalo Bills at home.
              http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/09/21/mia...-coach-jaguars

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              • HndRkyaBong34
                HndRkyaBong34 commented
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                Can you say "Dion Jordan" Coyle has never got it right and he never will.. Fire the FO and all of Philbins minions...

            • #10
              Originally posted by Phin4Ever View Post
              There are only two players on defense making their pay. Grimes and Jones. Everyone else needs to wake up and Coyle needs to ride off into the sunset!!
              So, if Suh was great in Detroit, but sucks in Miami, and Odrick sucked when he was in Miami and wrecked havoc while playing against Miami, what is the common denominator???? The Evil Empire takes great players, and reduces them to mediocrity.

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              • #11
                I only give a measure of credence to this position. Which means I agree, but there is more to it. First of all let's not pretend that Jared Odrick is a force. He had only three tackles against the Panthers the week before. So why better against us? This is where I am at with the Suh thing. Odrick had a chip on his shoulder and this was personal and that is how he played. Effort. Proving something. I do not see that from Suh. Look, there were MANY plays I watched and it was Suh one one one against the center. The center stood him up and pushed him aside. How is that scheme? Why does that happen here and did not happen in Detroit? I also observed him the past two weeks looking winded. I mean out of shape. Now it is entirely possible he does not believe in what he is doing and the coaching. I have heard Jordan Phillips name called as making a play in each game. Heard Earl Mitchell yesterday. Where is Suh? Where is Wake? This is the same scheme he played last year. Something is off but I do expect more from Suh even in this scheme. For $114M three tackles isn't going to make it.

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                • #12
                  Not what we expect, but Suh did make a play on Yeldon late to force them to kick the FG. Suh blew up the play then Shepard finished it off. I am not saying it's all coaching and not sure what the difference is, but the past couple of years players have complained about Coyle and his scheme/play calling. Now it looks like Suh has already lost confidence in him. Not for nothing, Suh is proven...Coyle has never proven anything.

                  There is more to it than just being beaten by a blocker and we have seen it year in and year out since Coyle took over the defense no matter who is in the uniform the results are the same.

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                  • #13
                    I'm not down on Suh at all. Coyles has been a problem for years now and he has a history of taking guys who performed well in college or elsewhere and putting them in positions to where they under perform. We've seen it repeatedly since he's been here.

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                    • #14
                      I'm not giving up on Suh yet. He has been too good for too long to think he was doing it only for a payday. I think Coyle is a terrible game caller. We rarely seem to be in the correct defense but when we are we see glimpses of what this defense can do. Unfortunately it has been way to rare.
                      Can we sign this guy?

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                      • #15
                        Sorry guys but although I agree Coyle has not done a good job, it is not Coyle getting blocked one on one and not beating his man. Suh is the highest paid DL in the league you expect over two games he does better than 3 tackles.

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