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  • James Burgess Jr. Highlights

    Linebacker ? Safety ? Either way this kid looks like a mauler. I hope he makes the final spot on the roster.

  • #2
    He sure looks good in those highlights. His only chance is as a safety. His instincts are good. His angles are good. His fundamentals are good. Maybe him and Reshad Jones as our safeties?
    Can we sign this guy?

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    • cuchulainn
      cuchulainn commented
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      I remember when people were saying that Zach Thomas should be made a safety... ;-)

    • Phintim Menace
      Phintim Menace commented
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      I was kinda thinking the same thing, but Zach was a rare individual that could be a strong man in the middle at his size. You might lose a good strong safety trying to make this guy another ZT, but he sure looks like a baller, should make the team.

  • #3
    I'm not sure what makes you guys think Safety at all. Size? He's the same size as CJ Moseley was entering the NFL last year. He's 5 lbs. heavier than Ray Lewis was coming out of the draft and about the same size as Ryan Shazier. Most importantly, he sticks. There is no reason to believe he can't beat out any LB on our roster if given a fair shot. Nobody's proven they can come up and stuff the run. And none have showed the fire to be the defensive General. That is a huge void dying to be filled.
    He plays the pass great from his position but Safety is a whole different ball game. In today's game I'd much rather see a big Safety come up as a hybrid LB than to try to move a LB to Safety.

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    • cuchulainn
      cuchulainn commented
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      Pretty excited overall about or LB corp (relatively speaking), if everyone can stay healthy. Would love to see Burgess make the cut, but it's a long, steep climb for him.

  • #4
    This kid is a tremendous athlete...I'd absolutely love for him to make the final roster and more importantly, be given a fair shot at contributing..IMO, so oftentimes it seems that it's not a level playing field when it comes to on-field competition and guys earning spots, starting positions or playing time; i'm getting the feeling that all that's about to change under Gase!

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    • #5
      Originally posted by kelbail2.2 View Post
      I'm not sure what makes you guys think Safety at all. Size? He's the same size as CJ Moseley was entering the NFL last year. He's 5 lbs. heavier than Ray Lewis was coming out of the draft and about the same size as Ryan Shazier. Most importantly, he sticks. There is no reason to believe he can't beat out any LB on our roster if given a fair shot. Nobody's proven they can come up and stuff the run. And none have showed the fire to be the defensive General. That is a huge void dying to be filled.
      He plays the pass great from his position but Safety is a whole different ball game. In today's game I'd much rather see a big Safety come up as a hybrid LB than to try to move a LB to Safety.
      I agree, he is not that undersized 6'0" 235 lbs. is adequate size for a LB. In today's NFL athleticism and speed are more important than size. I would rather have a smallish but athletic LB than a bulked up safety. Besides, a safety has to have a lot more range than a LB. He excels at flying around the field as a LB and thats where I think he should stay.

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      • #6
        He sure doesn't look that big in the video. He plays that big but didn't look that big. If he can play they'll find a spot for him. We need playmakers. Especially at LB.
        Can we sign this guy?

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        • Phintim Menace
          Phintim Menace commented
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          The video also lists him at 225 (from Homestead, FL) so we have already added 10 pounds to his size. For me, he plays a thumper style of defense which I like, but that's easier to do at 6'-0" and 225 in college than the NFL. Can he shed a 330lb NFL lineman and then deck a 230 pound NFL running back the way he does in the video? But I am a big believer in filling your roster with tough guy playmakers and then trying not to handcuff them with your coaching style. Put him on the field and tell him to go get the ball! Adjust your schemes to your player's strengths.

      • #7
        Originally posted by FinFan in KC View Post
        He sure doesn't look that big in the video. He plays that big but didn't look that big. If he can play they'll find a spot for him. We need playmakers. Especially at LB.
        I thought so as well, he definitely looks on the smallish side, more lanky & lean (I can't see him weighing 235)...But his athleticism is off the charts!

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        • FinFan in KC
          FinFan in KC commented
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          And he might be able to add some weight but some of these guys seem to not be able to bulk up and still play the same.

      • #8
        Read that AJ Cruz toasted him in coverage. Bout the only time he's been mentioned.

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        • #9
          Wow... Burgess (#43) looks really damned small next to the other LBs... that's Paysinger (42), and Blount (44) next to him. And it's not just that Paysinger has his helmet resting on his head instead of wearing it. Look at the shoulder levels and their builds. Burgess is shorter and has a much slighter frame. He's listed as 6-0, but looks more like 5-11. The others are 6-2 or better.



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          • DolphinsFreak
            DolphinsFreak commented
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            He looks more like a safety then a linebacker in that photo. He doesn't look like he weighs that much either. He looks like a smaller running back.

          • cuchulainn
            cuchulainn commented
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            Yeah, have nothing against a 5-11 LB, but you're right about him not looking very muscular. Course it could just be angles and body lean in the pic.

        • #10
          Wow! That's him? Are you sure we didn't acquire Darren Sproles? Is he ten yards further back than the other guys. Okay, now I understand the Safety talk. Holy Schnikes! I need to see some other photos.

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          • #11
            Originally posted by kelbail2.2 View Post
            Wow! That's him? Are you sure we didn't acquire Darren Sproles? Is he ten yards further back than the other guys. Okay, now I understand the Safety talk. Holy Schnikes! I need to see some other photos.
            Pic of him signing autographs... He's not much bigger than the kid he's signing for...


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            • cuchulainn
              cuchulainn commented
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              And that's 5-8 Bobby McCain walking behind him...

          • #12
            I agree that he's on the smallish side,, but IMO sometimes you gotta just go against all of the prototypical sizes & #'s that dictate who can play where and just go with your gut...I'm not saying he's a sure-thing but i'd damn sure like to see what he could do given a chance...

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            • Phintim Menace
              Phintim Menace commented
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              I agree. You have 53 roster spots. This guy could be a special teams demon right off. Maybe a good dime LB, An outside blitzer? He is a football player. His size is a question mark playing close to LOS on running downs, but it's not the end all be all story.

          • #13
            Originally posted by Driven_Phinsane! View Post
            I agree that he's on the smallish side,, but IMO sometimes you gotta just go against all of the prototypical sizes & #'s that dictate who can play where and just go with your gut...I'm not saying he's a sure-thing but i'd damn sure like to see what he could do given a chance...
            Completely agree, but I expected him to be more muscular. Jenkins isn't huge, but he's way more built.

            Pads come on on Monday. We'll see what he's made of soon.

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            • Driven_Phinsane!
              Driven_Phinsane! commented
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              Agree on both counts...Though i will say muscles don't make a good football player, otherwise Brock Lesnar would've been a star, lol...

            • DolphinsFreak
              DolphinsFreak commented
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              Don't forget Dolphins star David Boston. :-)

            • Driven_Phinsane!
              Driven_Phinsane! commented
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              Ol' David Boston,, always reminded me of a chicken on steroids..Huge upper body with little chicken legs...

          • #14
            By the by... Burgess has made a few plays at camp... most notable, he really cleaned Damien Williams clock on a hit for one and today, he picked off a Doughty pass intended for Matt Hazel.

            He pissed Williams off with that hit, and Williams, who excels in pass protection, took it out on a blitzing DE, by putting the guy on the ground. Suh walked over to Williams and complimented him, then told him to cool it. lol...

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            • #15
              Originally posted by cuchulainn View Post
              By the by... Burgess has made a few plays at camp... most notable, he really cleaned Damien Williams clock on a hit for one and today, he picked off a Doughty pass intended for Matt Hazel.

              He pissed Williams off with that hit, and Williams, who excels in pass protection, took it out on a blitzing DE, by putting the guy on the ground. Suh walked over to Williams and complimented him, then told him to cool it. lol...
              That's my point, if he's a natural playmaker he deserves a serious look; so oftentimes really good players slip through the cracks b/c so many are caught up in size, weight, combine #'s etc...I say if a guy can play football, he can PLAY football......

              To loosely paraphrase Chris Carter: "All i do is make plays!"

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              • cuchulainn
                cuchulainn commented
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                Agree with you, just worry that with his lack of size and muscle mass he'll wear down quick or get injured. I was expecting him be built more along the lines of London Fletcher as opposed to Michael Landon... ;-)

              • Driven_Phinsane!
                Driven_Phinsane! commented
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                lmao, true dat...but that being said, i remember playing ball with some skinny-ass kids who hit harder than anyone i ever played against before...You know the old saying; it's not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog!!!

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