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I have watched all of the Dolphins DTs over the years and I believe Suh has a chance to be the most dominant of all. Only time will tell if he stacks up to Manny Fernandez, my personal choice, but this video makes me feel he could surpass Fernandez. It's a crappy video someone took of their TV but it shows his dominance. He is triple teamed initially and still gets push. One of the blockers falls down and another peels off to go after Earl Mitchell and Suh still manages to get in on the sack. Something that doesn't show up in stats but is still a big play. I know this is a more mature and seasoned group on these forums who have seen all or most of Miami's DTs over the years so I ask, is Suh the most dominant we have had?
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Might be easier to address this in another month or two. I'd like to see him in a few live games but as of now I'd say he ranks right up there.While it takes two to have an argument, it only takes one to walk away. -
I agree for sure he has the talent and potential to be maybe the best DT in NFL history. But for the team and the NFL those things take time. Fernandez, Baumhower, Bowens all come to mind. The only DT I recall seeing that could overpower blockers like Suh does is Howey Long. But Suh certainly has that level of talent. If he finishes out this contract playing at this level or close to it, I think he could qualify as a first ballot HOF. These highlights are some of what I saw during the game. It is very noteworthy that guys like Wake, Vernon and Mitchell are never going to draw a double team all year long. No guard or center is going to be assigned to get out to the second level and block a linebacker. This is so important to the overall defense, ask Zach Thomas.Comment
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Glad you guys are giving some love to Manny Fernandez. He was my first thought when I saw the thread title. Timbo deserves some love as well.
That said, Suh certainly has the physical and mental attributes to be the best ever at the position to wear Aqua. His physical qualities remind me of Reggie White a lot. Can't wait to watch him bring it and help raise the bar for the others on defense once the games count.Comment
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Yep!!!!!!!!!!!The deeper the roots, the higher the reach.Comment
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He better be...... It's the most money they've ever spent on a DT in the past... Again, he better be.......
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Who gets 17 tackles in a Super Bowl and doesn't get the MVP?..or even a Co-MVP??...Manny Fernandez that's who! I was a huge Jake Scott (who got the MVP with two INT's) fan, but Manny's always been one of my favorite Fins, ever! I have an autographed Manny picture (signed 17 & 0) hanging in my study, a shot from that SB against the Skins...
I hope Suh does become the most dominant ever, it would go a long way towards us maybe one day getting back to said promise land!Comment
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Suh very well could go down in history as the most dominant DT in all of the NFL. Miami has had some very good DT's but none of them are in the same league as Suh. I have never been one to spend big money on interior defensive linemen, but Suh is the exception to that rule as he changes game plans. I am not really sure any of us truly understand how dominant this defensive line could be this year. Wake is still one of the best defensive ends in the NFL, Vernon is gonna get PAID next year and is a top 15 defensive end and possibly top 10. Mitchell can be a beast when he's not fighting off double teams, and Suh is just...well he Suh.
The Atlanta game just shows you how much of an impact he makes. He didn't have a stat in the game, yet Matty Ice was a pinata back there. Just Suh being on the field will make the defense better. Last year the defense collapsed and cost Miami a few games, this year I expect the defense to win a few games. I really think we as fans need to sit back and enjoy the ride this year. Baring injury this starting lineup on offense and defense is good enough to win it all and I am not sure Philbin can even screw it up...LOLComment
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I'm sure Philban can screw it up if he tries hard enough. But I agree, this is the most optimistic I have felt in years. Watching the D play was a dream come true the other night. I have always been a fan of defense and to watch them DOMINATE was great. IF was can avoid major injuries I see no reason why this team cannot make a deep run into the playoffs.
I am soooooo looking forward to our D line bouncing Brady off of the turf.Comment
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Same here..What i really love is winning the toss, deferring to the 2nd half & starting the game out on D...If the D comes out & crushes it, it can set the tone for the whole game straight out the gate!Originally posted by Daytona Dolfan View Post
I do still worry that after Philbin defers he'll elect to kickoff at the start of the 2nd half as well!
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Agreed... man, this new forum is like mental viagra for you. You've never been so 'potent' in your posts. ;-)Last edited by cuchulainn; 09-02-2015, 12:16 PM.
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Exactly. Manny had one of the most dominant performances in the history of league in the SB, yet you never hear his name.Originally posted by Driven_Phinsane! View Post
One of my favorite pics ever:
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I believe Phillips has the tools to be a great player, next to Suh and the education Suh will bring...All up to drive....Comment
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I grew up with Tim Bowens, and watching how much better he made JT and Zach Thomas, but Suh is on a whole other level. I'm not even sure he's human. How can a team possibly be expected to block him, Wake, Vernon and Mitchell? Even keeping a tight end in to block, that gives you double teams on Suh and Wake, and leaves Vernon and Mitchell one-on-one. I'll take those odds every time.
"The organization has struggled from a personnel standpoint over the years. For instance, they drafted me in the second round. . . . You don't recover from those types of mistakes." - Rob KonradComment
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I don't know anything about posting pics, let alone on this forum. If anyone can, there is a GREAT PIC of Suh in today's Dolphins preview from the Herald. A very nasty looking Suh is standing in the ocean, rough waters, and a wave building, with ominous black clouds labeled STORM SURGE.Comment
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Here's the version they had uploaded to their website! Seems like a pretty apt comparison; you can't hold back Suh, or the tide.Originally posted by So Be View Post
"The organization has struggled from a personnel standpoint over the years. For instance, they drafted me in the second round. . . . You don't recover from those types of mistakes." - Rob KonradComment
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