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    Brandon Doughty has impressed enough to knock Logan Thomas off the roster.

    The Dolphins cut quarterback Logan Thomas today, leaving them four quarterbacks for training camp: Ryan Tannehill, Matt Moore, Brandon Doughty (see more on him below) and Zac Dysert. Thomas' accuracy was erratic during the offseason program, and frankly, no team needs five QBs in camp.

    The Dolphins promoted Thomas from the practice squad to the 53 late last season, and Thomas said Mike Tannenbaum told him he would have a legitimate chance to battle for the backup job this year. But then Moore re-signed and the Dolphins drafted Doughty, whose accuracy has been superior to Thomas' in the offseason program.

    The Dolphins paid $125,000 to keep Thomas late last season. He ended up never throwing a pass for the Dolphins.

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    Gase said seventh-round rookie quarterback Brandon Doughty “has made a lot of strides since he’s been here. He seems to find completions. When I look at a lot of our film for three weeks before this week, even when [he’s] wrong [in] where he was going, somehow he completes the football.

    “He kind of has this knack -- He sees the open guy sometimes. You’re like, ‘Why did you throw it there?’ He’s like, ‘He was open.’ He has something about him in that capacity where he can find completions.”



    Hoping Doughty can also knock Dysert off the roster.

  • #2
    My God, Doughty already understands the position better than Tannehill. He looks down field and throws to the guy that's open. That statement alone tells me he will unseat Tannehill before the year is over. I'm not often in agreement with Omar Kelly but he's continued to say Tannehill has not improved in his pocket presence and tunnel vision and is still far too inconsistent. Gase is not going to be so patient with Tannehill when he goes into that brainlock funk where he starts missing wide open guys on first and second down, then starts only seeing one receiver and forcing balls into coverage, before finally just dumping off everything underneath regardless of down, distance and game situation, especially if Gase believes he has a guy on the sideline that can scan the field and find the open receivers. Wow, Cuch, you got me a little excited about the Quarterback position. It's been a while since I could say that.

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    • cuchulainn
      cuchulainn commented
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      I posted a lot of stuff on Doughty a couple months ago. Extremely under rated and there isn't a whole lot of difference between him and Jared Goff, except Doughty was more productive while Goff has the stronger arm. The knocks on Doughty going into the draft were his lack of foot speed and arm strength along with his slight build. Still, the guy just makes plays.

      Doughty may end up being our ''Brady'', but he's got to be able to make the roster and move up and make things happen at this level. At least he'll have an easier time now with the amount of talent on the roster we have at this point as opposed to the previous seasons under Philbin.

      Barring injury, I doubt Doughty sees the field this season. He still has a long way to go.

      As for Omar, he was hanging on David Guarrard and Legadu NaaNaa's jocks. He routinely praised Dallas Thomas each previous off season and was the main person driving the locker room division with his love affair with Miko. He's the last guy anyone should ever trust for an objective evaluation of any position as he absolutely plays favorites. He's also a liar and is routinely called out by the players for his BS. He talks out of both sides of his mouth and has zero credibility IMO.

  • #3
    I'm happy with Doughty. Hopefully he won't be poached as I see us only carrying 2 on the 53. Can't believe Moore keeps getting paid.
    The deeper the roots, the higher the reach.

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    • cuchulainn
      cuchulainn commented
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      Nah, he's going no where this season. He's Marino's pet project and also endeared himself to Gase.

  • #4
    At first I was very skeptical of the Doughty selection because what I saw in the limited action I was able to dig up on him that he was always playing the Bill Lazor catch and release game, requiring no pocket awareness, anticipation of throws, downfield vision, etc. I just assumed he'd be groomed to supplant Matt "Reak" Greyjoy as the backup and become the #2 robot.
    The one thing that you can't overlook, however, is the, what, 97 touchdowns over two years? That is incredible. You don't throw 97 TDs without systematically dismantling defenses. There had to be a lot more downfield stuff that I just didn't see. I know it makes me more excited seeing him throwing out of that system and putting up those ridiculous numbers than needing to run all over like RGIII before setting up to throw.
    I know Doughty was a regular at the Marino home in high school and said he often talked football with him. Hopefully, and it sounds like it may be true, Doughty picked up the most important lesson he ever could from Dan the Man. When a reporter once asked Marino how he read and broke down defenses, Marino said he simply dropped back and threw to the guy that was open.

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    • Dolfan1
      Dolfan1 commented
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      I believe it's "Reek" for GOT followers.

  • #5
    Could his numbers be skewed because of the competition he played against in college?

    In the East West Shine game he threw pick after pick, trying to force balls into coverage. One pick was in the redzone and turned out to be a 96 yard Pick-6. From what I've seen on him he is similar to Tannehill in the sense that he loves to throw short passes, really hard short passes. He locks in on receivers which allow defenses to jump coverages.

    2015 West Kentucky Hilltoppers Schedule

    Vanderbuilt Commadores - (Lionel Ritchie was the starting QB in this game for the Commadores)
    Louisiana Tech Bulldogs
    Indiana Hoosiers - (They played football against the Hoosiers basketball team in this game...............LOST 38-35)
    Miami Redhawks
    Rice Owls
    Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders
    North Texas Mean Green
    LSU Tigers - (They lost this game 48-20...........This is an important stat to keep in mind. Doughty 37/61 with a passer rating of 45.6)
    Old Domino Monarchs
    Florida Atlantic Owls - (Seriously, two teams in this ridiculous division called the owls?)
    FIU Golden Panthers
    Marshall Thundering Herd
    Southern Miss Golden Eagles
    USF Bulls

    I won't read too much into his stats after looking at the teams that he played against in college. There was a good reason he was sitting there in the 7th round of the draft. Vadal Alexander was still on the board. Scooby Wright was still on the board. The Dolphins should have moved up in the 6th round to draft Brandon Allen rather then draft Jordan Lucas who "might" play special team if he even makes the team. Lucas was a 7th or later (ie - Not drafted) projected player.

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    • #6
      Originally posted by kelbail2.2 View Post
      At first I was very skeptical of the Doughty selection because what I saw in the limited action I was able to dig up on him that he was always playing the Bill Lazor catch and release game, requiring no pocket awareness, anticipation of throws, downfield vision, etc. I just assumed he'd be groomed to supplant Matt "Reak" Greyjoy as the backup and become the #2 robot.
      The one thing that you can't overlook, however, is the, what, 97 touchdowns over two years? That is incredible. You don't throw 97 TDs without systematically dismantling defenses. There had to be a lot more downfield stuff that I just didn't see. I know it makes me more excited seeing him throwing out of that system and putting up those ridiculous numbers than needing to run all over like RGIII before setting up to throw.
      I know Doughty was a regular at the Marino home in high school and said he often talked football with him. Hopefully, and it sounds like it may be true, Doughty picked up the most important lesson he ever could from Dan the Man. When a reporter once asked Marino how he read and broke down defenses, Marino said he simply dropped back and threw to the guy that was open.

      Doughty was coached by Jeff Dellenbach in high school and was friendly with one of Marino's sons. He would hang out and ride the zip line that Marino had from the house to the lake in front and also tossed the ball with Danny sometimes. Doughty wasn't playing when he says Marino was his idol growing up.

      Doughty was a 3-star recruit coming out of HS. Jeff Brohm was the OC at FAU at the time and recruited Doughty there. When Brohm left FAU, Doughty followed him to Western Kentucky under then HC Bobby Petrino. Doughty wasn't just handed the starting role though. He beat the competition each time he came back from injury.

      After Petrino left the program, Jeff Brohm was elevated to head coach. He brought in Tyson Helton as Doughty's offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach, who has had a very good track record over his career with developing players.

      The 2014 and 2015 statistics for Doughty:
      763/1092 for 9885 yards, 97 touchdowns (101 total), 19 interceptions, 8 fumbles, 32 sacks for -243 yards lost, 14 runs for 69 yards gained, 1 reception for 7 yards.

      Per Gil Brandt, he fell to the 7th round cause he ran a 5.14 in the forty yard dash.

      "If he had run, say, a 4.8, he'd be taken a lot higher," longtime NFL personnel expert Gil Brandt said. "But he does move around in the pocket and beyond better than a 5.2 guy. He has a good delivery, good accuracy. He has been well-coached. I don't think there is any question, unless he is injured, that he will make a team and be a developmental quarterback with a lot of upside. There are intriguing quarterbacks who could go in the third, fourth and fifth rounds and he is one of them. I think he's in the fifth-round area, but it's early. I would love to have him in my camp."

      - Worked through family and injury adversity in college, including 2 medical redshirts, and three coaching staffs.
      - Local kid who grew up a Dolphins fan. Extremely competitive, film junkie, and one of the highest producing QBs in FBS history.
      - Good size and arm strength, great ball spin, with very good touch. Throws one of the most catchable balls in the draft.
      - College exposure to a lot of pro route concepts, progression reads, check downs, hot routes, motion, protections.
      - Lined up under center some and also turned his back to the defense on play-action.
      - Handled pressure well with his check downs and hot routes. Had the best numbers vs pressure of any QB in this draft class.
      - Marino took an active part evaluating this year's QB class and thought Doughty was better than most of the early round QBs.
      - Clyde Christenson and Gase both have been impressed with his demeanor and how fast he's picked up the offense, as well as his accuracy and decision making.
      - Gets knocked for his lack of arm strength, but he's a very good passer because of his vision, timing, and accuracy.
      - He had a fantastic game against LSU in a downpour where he had no running game. He put up over 300 yards of passing offense and 3 TDs. His 1 INT in the game was the result of his WR slipping down on the wet field on the route.

      Some highlights:

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