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  • If A Snake Bit You Twice......

    Would you trust it not to bite you the 3rd time? Dion Jordan? If the Dolphins take him back, and he flunks another drug test, they deserve everything they get. This guy has failed 2 drug tests before, once for MDMA and grass, and had a diluted wizz sample on the 2nd suspension. He will get a $1.7 million roster bonus that will be due on his 5th day of training camp if he is reinstated by the NFL, and the Dolphins don't cut him. Common sense says to send him packing, he's blown 2 chances already. What do you guys think?

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    He's was the 3rd overall pick in the 2014 draft. The Dolphins inept general manager spent TWO early round picks to move up and draft him. He is only 26 years old. I think the pro's outweight the cons in this scenario. The Miami Dolphins need help at the linebacker position especially in coverage. IF Jordan can come back and be the player that most thought he would be, and IF Joseph plays him at LB and not DE, then the rewards could be well worth it. I don't think they can figure out if he is a bust and doing all this just for the 1,7 million in four days but they might be able to. He should be in football shape with all his down time.

    In my opinion the Dolphins would be wise to give him one more try. If he passes his drug test and is reinstated then he 'should' be able to not only crack into the starting lineup but he should be one of the Dolphins best linebackers, if not the best. Worst case scenario, other then him being a complete bust, is that he is out of shape and is used for depth purposes this season.

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    • #3
      He's a lottery ticket. Sometimes you hit it big, but often not. DJ made some bad decisions, but a lot of it was on the coaching staff as well as they never knew how to use him and tried to turn him into a different player than the one they drafted.

      IMO, you bring him in and evaluate him mentally and physically. If he can come back to the team and contribute, then you bring him back and give him a shot. If he can't make the roster this summer, cut him and move on.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by cuchulainn View Post
        He's a lottery ticket. Sometimes you hit it big, but often not. DJ made some bad decisions, but a lot of it was on the coaching staff as well as they never knew how to use him and tried to turn him into a different player than the one they drafted.

        IMO, you bring him in and evaluate him mentally and physically. If he can come back to the team and contribute, then you bring him back and give him a shot. If he can't make the roster this summer, cut him and move on.
        No matter what I wouldn't cut him. The worst general manager in Dolphins history gave up WAY too much for him to just cut him. I would float it out there how well he is doing and then try and make a trade with the 49ers. If the Dolphins needed to cut him it would be best to get something out of him rather then nothing I'm sure Chip Kelly would be extremely interested in having Jordan on his roster and might give up a decent round pick for him. If the Dolphins wanted to part ways with him a 7th round pick would be better then nothing, so anything better then a 7th round be that much better.

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        • cuchulainn
          cuchulainn commented
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          While I agree on trying to get something for him, I don't see him having any value at this point if he isn't ready to go and can't make our roster. Other teams already know this and would wait for us to cut him. Chip Kelly had many chances to already get him in the past.

      • #5
        Do you think the Dolphins front office is smart enough to figure out a way not pay him his roster bonus even if he is re-instated? Maybe based on staying clean all year? He is a big risk at best, and most of these risks don't pan out. My bet is that he won't last the year if he is re-instated.

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        • DolphinsFreak
          DolphinsFreak commented
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          I am wondering if he is reinstated if the Dolphins can immediately renegotiate his contract. If so, that would be the best thing to do in my opinion.

        • Tarpon Guide
          Tarpon Guide commented
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          That's kinda what I was thinking. If he fails during the year, no roster bonus, no bonuses what-so-ever, just a basic salary. He's a free agent next year....

      • #6
        Hell,, if we were the type of people who if a snake bit us twice we'd get rid of it, we would've stopped being Fins fans decades ago!!! I mean come on,, we've been bit by this franchise over & over & over again yet return every Sunday, every season to do it..all over again....

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        • Tarpon Guide
          Tarpon Guide commented
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          Yea, we meet Einstein's definition of insanity.....Doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results..

      • #7
        I got immune to the venom.
        The deeper the roots, the higher the reach.

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        • #8
          Does this answer your question ?


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          • Tarpon Guide
            Tarpon Guide commented
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            Only if we are stupid enough to stick your hand in it's mouth..........................................And we have proven we are time and time again.

          • AquaXI
            AquaXI commented
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            Kinda looks like Dion

          • 61finfan
            61finfan commented
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            Holy hand grenades

        • #9
          My common sense says keep him and hope he turns into the player they drafted. The roster bonus is nothing in the big picture. If he's learned his lesson then we could have a pro bowl type, if not he's gone and it cost Ross less than a weeks salary. There are a lot of players that figured it out. Chris Carter comes to mind, as does Michael Irving and others. He's been straight for an entire year being tested weekly. He's done everything so far to prove he is on the right track, why let the Patriots or some other organization benefit if he really has figured it out. He's also got two former teammates on the roster with him now and a coaching staff that seems to be much more in tune with the players than prior. I for one want to see what he has to offer before just cutting him loose for nothing in return.

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          • #10
            Originally posted by DolphinsFreak View Post
            In my opinion the Dolphins would be wise to give him one more try. If he passes his drug test and is reinstated then he 'should' be able to not only crack into the starting lineup but he should be one of the Dolphins best linebackers, if not the best. Worst case scenario, other then him being a complete bust, is that he is out of shape and is used for depth purposes this season.
            Wouldn't he be banned permanently if he fails another test? I don't think anybody would give much for a guy with THAT on his back, regardless of his talent potential... I agree that we give him a chance to impress the new coach and FO, THEY should be "impartial" as THEY didn't draft the guy!

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            • #11
              Originally posted by Wulf View Post

              Wouldn't he be banned permanently if he fails another test? I don't think anybody would give much for a guy with THAT on his back, regardless of his talent potential... I agree that we give him a chance to impress the new coach and FO, THEY should be "impartial" as THEY didn't draft the guy!
              I believe if he fails another test he will be permanently banned. I am not 100% sure about that but I think that is correct. I don't think he will fail the test. He has been testing for a long time now so if Jordan even thought there was a slight chance he could fail he would have put off trying to be reinstated. I don't think there will be a problem with him passing the drug test. In my opinion the only problem that 'might' come up is that he is out of Football Shape and all this time off may have effected his game, both physically and equally important, mentally. We as fans can only hope for the best. We ALL know the Dolphins are thin at linebacker so if Jordan can come back and play anywhere close to what people expected him to the Dolphins defense will be much improved. The Dolphins have coaches that won't try and put him in a DE, where he doesn't belong. He is weighing in around 265 right now so I think Jordan has every intention on playing linebacker. If he wanted to play DE he would have put weight on rather than take weight off. Smart move by him and his trainers.

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              • Tarpon Guide
                Tarpon Guide commented
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                Well, if he was that smart, he wouldn't have put himself in the position to be suspended twice. Hopefully, he realizes that this is his 3rd and final chance in the NFL. No other profession allows this many controlled substance fails. I hate to say it, but I don't think he'll make it thru the year without another failed test.

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