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    Is that what we will choose to be? With the addition of Tunsil, the Dolphins have the makings of a pretty darn good O Line. The question mark is at RG. Can we continue to hope that someone can win this job only to be subjected to the guy that doesn't lose it the worst? Let's get J Douglas, B Turner and D Thomas more coaching and reps and see what happens but in the meantime sign Slauson and get an established NFL caliber starter in that lineup. It's hard to believe this is an oversight or misjudgment. It looks a lot more like a strategic disadvantage purposefully constructed to sabotage us against teams we're scripted to lose against.
    We have a hole. We have a known commodity to fill the hole. But for some strange reason these "football guys" never seem to address it. Matt Slausen, drafted by Tannenbaum, coached by Gase. No team better to recognize his name, his availabilty, his talent and lure him over. Numbers show he is still a solid starter. How can they ignore this if they are seriously trying to build a champion. I'm not touting Slausen as a great player just one good enough and experienced enough to be a solid worst guy on our line. Am I wrong?

  • #2
    If the OL is to be:

    LT - Albert
    LG - Tunsil
    OC - Pouncey
    RG - TBD
    RT - James

    Currently, TBD will be chosen from Turner, Douglas, Thomas, Urbik, or Steen.

    That leaves Bushrod as the swing tackle and McClendon as the backup Center.

    Surely (Shirley), they can find 1 competent lineman to play right guard. Be nice if Steen could get back to the the form he had while at Alabama before the Labrum Injury. He was a 3 year starter for Bama at RG.

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    • Idahomer
      Idahomer commented
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      I think Bushrod wins the RG spot if we don't add another Guard through FA..

  • #3
    Originally posted by cuchulainn View Post
    If the OL is to be:

    LT - Albert
    LG - Tunsil
    OC - Pouncey
    RG - TBD
    RT - James

    Currently, TBD will be chosen from Turner, Douglas, Thomas, Urbik, or Steen.

    That leaves Bushrod as the swing tackle and McClendon as the backup Center.

    Surely (Shirley), they can find 1 competent lineman to play right guard. Be nice if Steen could get back to the the form he had while at Alabama before the Labrum Injury. He was a 3 year starter for Bama at RG.
    I think it would be a huge mistake to go into the season with that list of TBD guys. Dallas Thomas just needs to be let go man. He isn't going to be a starter in this league. I agree with KellBail to bring in Slauson, or another veteran GUARD. It baffles me that every coach that the Miami Dolphins brings in always tries to force TACKLES to play guard rather then just sign a guard. The past coaching STAFFS didn't do that great of a job at drafting GUARDS so that is something Gase and Co need to keep in mind going forward.

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    • #4
      Originally posted by DolphinsFreak View Post

      I think it would be a huge mistake to go into the season with that list of TBD guys. Dallas Thomas just needs to be let go man. He isn't going to be a starter in this league. I agree with KellBail to bring in Slauson, or another veteran GUARD. It baffles me that every coach that the Miami Dolphins brings in always tries to force TACKLES to play guard rather then just sign a guard. The past coaching STAFFS didn't do that great of a job at drafting GUARDS so that is something Gase and Co need to keep in mind going forward.

      I'm not disagreeing with bringing in Slauson, but they already brought in the vet Urbik. I just doubt they bring in anyone else. Turner is going into his 3rd year and Douglas and Steen, their 2nd. They'll want to see what they have in these guys first. Agree on Dallas Thomas. He would have been my immediate cut right after Jason Fox was walked out the door.

      Gase stated that they wanted these guys stronger and more phsyical this season as they are changing the schemes under Wanny's former OC, our new OL Coach, Chris Foerester. At least their's some real competition for spots this season. Dallas and Douglas were handed the roles by Philbin last year. That shouldn't be the case this season.

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      • #5
        We should have also drafted an OG. If not for all that stupid trading up and trading down we could have just selected Christian Westerman in the 5th, Sebastian Tretola in the 6th or Vadal Alexander in the 7th.

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        • cuchulainn
          cuchulainn commented
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          Agree on Westerman, but again. Turner wasn't as terrible as Douglas or Thomas... or either Jason Fox made him look better. lol...

          If Anthony Steen is healthy now, he may be a sleeper for the position as he was a 3 year RG starter for Bama, now a year removed.

      • #6
        Originally posted by cuchulainn View Post


        I'm not disagreeing with bringing in Slauson, but they already brought in the vet Urbik. I just doubt they bring in anyone else. Turner is going into his 3rd year and Douglas and Steen, their 2nd. They'll want to see what they have in these guys first. Agree on Dallas Thomas. He would have been my immediate cut right after Jason Fox was walked out the door.

        Gase stated that they wanted these guys stronger and more phsyical this season as they are changing the schemes under Wanny's former OC, our new OL Coach, Chris Foerester. At least their's some real competition for spots this season. Dallas and Douglas were handed the roles by Philbin last year. That shouldn't be the case this season.
        I didn't quote you because I thought you didn't want Slauson. I basically did it because you mentioned the other "guards" on the Dolphins currently.

        Kraig Ubrik might fall into the catagory of being a "veteran" but compared to Slauson I really think it would be wise to cut ties with Ubrik and bring in REAL competition and a REAL veteran, as opposed to doing it "The Dolphin Way" and getting these below average veteran players who are equally as bad as the 2nd year and 3rd year players fighting to make the roster, Ubrik started in FOUR games last season and 9 before that. Veteran? From 2011- 2013 Kubric played a decent amount of games but other then that he didn't really play at all. Slauson on the other hand has been a starter his entire career, minus the year he got injured. And, he ranked HIGH just last season at GUARD. Why would the Dolphins choose a below average player who might not make the team over Slauson, who is more than likely the exact player they need to not only solidify the offensive line but could push the younger players to up their games?

        I think the Dolphins front office is CRAZY if they would rather stick with any of their RG's over bringing in Slauson.

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        • cuchulainn
          cuchulainn commented
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          Not disagreeing, just saying they will most likely want Turner or Douglas to win the job. NFL teams tend to rig such competitions for the young guys they draft... I'm still rooting for the dark horse, Steen, to make the roster. He's the most accomplished OG we have for a young guy.

      • #7
        Originally posted by kelbail2.2 View Post
        Is that what we will choose to be? With the addition of Tunsil, the Dolphins have the makings of a pretty darn good O Line. The question mark is at RG. Can we continue to hope that someone can win this job only to be subjected to the guy that doesn't lose it the worst? Let's get J Douglas, B Turner and D Thomas more coaching and reps and see what happens but in the meantime sign Slauson and get an established NFL caliber starter in that lineup. It's hard to believe this is an oversight or misjudgment. It looks a lot more like a strategic disadvantage purposefully constructed to sabotage us against teams we're scripted to lose against.
        We have a hole. We have a known commodity to fill the hole. But for some strange reason these "football guys" never seem to address it. Matt Slausen, drafted by Tannenbaum, coached by Gase. No team better to recognize his name, his availabilty, his talent and lure him over. Numbers show he is still a solid starter. How can they ignore this if they are seriously trying to build a champion. I'm not touting Slausen as a great player just one good enough and experienced enough to be a solid worst guy on our line. Am I wrong?
        Conspiracy Theory: Steve Ross and Mike Tannenbaum are closet NY Jets fans determined to run this storied and once proud franchise so far into the ground it'll never return............just a thought!

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        • HndRkyaBong34
          HndRkyaBong34 commented
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          I think you're on to something....

        • DolphinsFreak
          DolphinsFreak commented
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          MFL owners get paid X amount of MILLIONS no matter what their record is, that is why some owners don't seem to care if their team is making playoff runs or their GM's are making great decisions to turn their teams around. Some owners probably look at their football team as a business. Is is making a profit? If yes, then they are happy, and if I am not mistaken ALL teams in the NFL make a profit each and every season no matter what their record is.

        • cuchulainn
          cuchulainn commented
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          Fun stuff, but dunno. Was reported here recently that Ross was pissed at Hickey for not drafting La'el Collins last year with one of our 2 5th round picks instead of Cedric Thompson or Tony Lippett. Part of the reasons Hickey was fired.

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