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    Dolphins:
    –It was a nice performance for Ryan Tannehill, who mixed in a lot of short stuff around and behind the line of scrimmage with some real big-boy throws down the field.
    –If James Stone doesn’t start at left guard for Atlanta in Week 1, it’ll be because DT Earl Mitchell put the kind of tape on him that scares a team. Mitchell is the forgotten man on Miami’s D-line, but he ruined Stone’s night with his explosiveness, turning 14 snaps into two quarterback disruptions and one more tackle for loss.
    –We liked Mike Hull in college, as he had the seventh-highest grade of all linebackers from the 2015 class. And it was nice to see him put his best foot forward against Atlanta. Five defensive stops have helped propel him to a +3.3 grade in 68 snaps.
    DE Derrick Shelby (+4.2)
    DT Earl Mitchell (+3.3)
    LB Mike Hull (+1.9)
    LB Jelani Jenkins (+1.5)
    QB Ryan Tannehill (+1.4)

  • #2
    Too bad Dallas Thomas had a couple of 'Dallas Thomas moments' in the game. He showed some really ability a few times as well.

    Really loved watching him destroy Falcons Safety Kemal Ishmael on a play while he was blocking for Landry...

    https://vine.co/v/eIjuwMaKbB1

    Shelby was the forgotten man after watching Suh and Mitchell wreak havoc. He had a really good game. Hoping we see many more positive grades on our guys starting with Washington.

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    • #3
      What an awesome play by Thomas.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Finatic View Post
        What an awesome play by Thomas.
        Indeed... Dallas' biggest issue is with consistency and that the coaches won't leave him in at one position to master. They move him constantly. Appreciate his selflessness and thick skin. Despite his gaffs, nice to see him getting some recognition for blowing up guys as well.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cuchulainn View Post

          Indeed... Dallas' biggest issue is with consistency and that the coaches won't leave him in at one position to master. They move him constantly. Appreciate his selflessness and thick skin. Despite his gaffs, nice to see him getting some recognition for blowing up guys as well.
          Dallas seems to be developing a bit of an attitude, a good sign.

          Any way you and/or Matt could put in a generic Phins avatar for those not pic "experts?" The "ghostie blanks" really look like hell,
          Last edited by So Be; 08-31-2015, 07:07 PM.

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          • cuchulainn
            cuchulainn commented
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            I can't do that. Matt might could... but you can do it yourself:

            - Click your Name or the 'Blank' Avatar
            - On the profile page, hover over the pic
            - Click 'Edit Avatar'
            - Upload a pic from your computer, or select one from a site using the URL/address
            - Continue and save the changes

        • #6
          Originally posted by So Be View Post

          Dallas seems to be developing a bit of an attitude, a good sign.

          Any way you and/or Matt could put in a generic Phins avatar for those not pic "experts?" The "ghostie blanks" really look like hell,
          Agreed. Dallas and James both played very well on that Tennessee OL. Both had talent coming out. Dallas has just been jerked around a lot by Philbin and never allowed to settle in.

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          • #7
            IMO I saw Thomas' biggest mistakes were between the ears. A couple of times he got caught leaning outside on the snap and the DE went inside, he couldn't recover fast enough. But those are pre-snap mental errors, partially from being young but mostly from not being used to being on the outside alone. When you are at guard, the opponent has to come through you to rush the passer. Most DEs and LBs are edge rushers who like to go wide around you. He obviously was worried about that.

            On the plays where he was in position he seemed to have little trouble being a better player than his opponent. These are the kind of players I like seeing on the roster just not as the starting LT. In smaller space he would do better, and he appears to be a stud athlete that needs practice and coaching to possibly be a pro-bowler. It's these kind of players that will be ready to replace guys like Albert in a year or 2, just not quite there yet.

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            • #8
              Originally posted by Phintim Menace View Post
              IMO I saw Thomas' biggest mistakes were between the ears. A couple of times he got caught leaning outside on the snap and the DE went inside, he couldn't recover fast enough. But those are pre-snap mental errors, partially from being young but mostly from not being used to being on the outside alone. When you are at guard, the opponent has to come through you to rush the passer. Most DEs and LBs are edge rushers who like to go wide around you. He obviously was worried about that.

              On the plays where he was in position he seemed to have little trouble being a better player than his opponent. These are the kind of players I like seeing on the roster just not as the starting LT. In smaller space he would do better, and he appears to be a stud athlete that needs practice and coaching to possibly be a pro-bowler. It's these kind of players that will be ready to replace guys like Albert in a year or 2, just not quite there yet.

              Yeah, I saw that. Hoping that we don't have to have Dallas at LT once the season starts... Bucs DL should be a very good test for us.

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              • #9
                I think Dallas Thomas is one of our most improved players (and I've been pretty down on him prior to this season). He's been GOOD at LG....but we don't want to have him at LT.

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                • cuchulainn
                  cuchulainn commented
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                  Agreed... problem with him is consistency and that when he looks bad - he looks really bad.

              • #10
                Here's a breakdown of what our OL really did last year in pass protect, including hits and hurries to sacks.

                First 9 games with Albert.

                Satele- 0 sacks, 4 hits, 6 hurries.

                James- 2- 8- 16

                Pouncey- 3- 0- 10

                Colledge- 5- 2- 4

                Dallas- 0- 2- 12

                Albert- 3- 1- 5

                Smith- 1- 2- 4

                Totals- 14 sacks, 19 hits, and 57 hurries. Total pressures 90 or 10 per game. I thought that Benton did one hell of a job with Albert the only proven talent, and 5 new guys in a new O. I thought Tannehill was gonna get killed early and often but, Benton pulled a rabbit out of his hat.

                Last 7 games without Albert

                Satele- 3 sacks, 8 hits, 9 hurries.

                James- 4- 4- 24

                Pouncey- 0- 3- 15

                Colledge- 2- 3- 5

                Dallas- 7- 5- 14

                Smith- 1- 1- 1

                Fox- 0- 3- 8

                Totals- 17 sacks, 27 hits, and 76 hurries. Total pressures- 120 or 17 per game.

                I re-post the above to show fact. Dallas did play 3 games each at RG and LG, giving up 0 sacks, 2 hits, and 12 hurries. These games did take place in the regular season, with Buff and Detroit being included. He got no one killed and is now much improved.

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