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    If Adam Gase is wise and has closely evaluated his offense, he is going to realize that the most effective way to try to win games is by limiting the number of passes that Bananapeel throws and hammering him relentlessly in Monday morning film study; from feeling the pass rush, to creating a good throwing lane, to hitting hot receivers, to seeing his RBs quickly when they are left alone in the flat (and hitting them in stride), to not staring down his primary, to seeing where guys will be open before they actually get open, to throwing the right kind of pass, to scrambling for easy first downs, etc. etc. etc. I would say never more than 20-25 passes. We need to condition our new and improved? O line to wear front sevens out and allow RT to hit his occasional pass downfield with special help from play action. Let the Miami humidity do what it is meant to do to opposing defenses. Allowing him to throw too often leads to unnecessary sacks and batted balls, ridiculous overthrows to wide open receivers and about 50% of his throws to be useless completions that might as well have been running plays with at least a chance of picking up a first down on 3rd and 4s and 5s. I'm more scared of what he is going to do on those downs than confident and I know a lot of you can relate. I think our defense is going to keep us in games all year. Sticking to the run will toughen us up, shorten games for the defense and trim the fat off of #17s passing attack? by not allowing him to have a bunch of forgotten, lousy reads, decisions and passes and to pad his stats with a bunch of meaningless completes and yards that fall short of the sticks on 3rd downs or put us in 3rd and longs. It will force him to show how effective he can be in an offense designed for the QB to be efficient, pick up first downs ten yards at a time, be counted on to almost always make the right decision (or ensure the decision he makes turns out to be right) and win football games. I'm a passing enthusiast but Tannehill is not the guy to game plan around. With an equal number of passes, Matt Moore would have put up 16 more touchdowns and 16 more interceptions. Is that any better or worse? The sign Neo read, written in Latin, over the Oracle's door translated to, "Know thyself." Until we find ourselves with a true artist, gunslinger or surgeon behind Center, let's not try to fool ourselves into believing we do.


  • #2
    Hopefully Gase is getting to know all the players and will use them and play them the way that will bring out the best in each and every one of them. Of pervious coaches did NOT do that and they wasted the talent that was on the team. That is why whe players leave the Dolphons they have so much success. The hope is that Gase is smart enough to spot talent and use that talent correctly. That alone will but up more W's.

    I expect the Dolphins to do one of two things that may surprise people early, and that is to draft a quarterback or running back in the first two rounds. There is no way they can go with Ajayi as their lead back and almost as risky as that is going with Tannehill as their starting quarterback. I 'hope' Gase is smart enough to see these facts.
    "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." - George S. Patton

    “The only thing worse then a liar is a liar that’s also a hypocrite!” - Tennessee Williams

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    • #3
      I have a feeling that we are going to trade up for Ezekiel Elliott. I am not saying thats what I want us to do but just have a feeling it will happen especially since we like making splashes. We would probably have to move up to #8 or #9 since the Giants would take him for sure at #10.

      Would you be willing to give up our 3rd round pick to move up for Elliott?

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      • Idahomer
        Idahomer commented
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        I'm seeing a lot of mocks with Dallas taking him at #4. I would not trade our 3rd rounder to get him NO WAY! There are solid RB options in the later rounds. We have too many needs. We need to pick a DE or CB in rd 1. Then a OG or CB/DE in rounds 2 and 3. The only way I would hold my cookies down if they traded up is if they used a 4th or higher or used a 3rd rounder from next years draft. I don't see how we can not address DE/CB/LB/OG in the first two days of this draft and consider it successful.

      • 61finfan
        61finfan commented
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        I'm not sure the giants would take him. They seem happy with their backfield.

    • #4
      I think the Dolphins should draft Shaq Lawson and then take Henry or Dixon in the 2nd round rather then trade up and give up a draft pick. I would be fine with the Dolphins drafting Elliot IF he is there at #13 but I don't think moving up is a great idea. JMO
      "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." - George S. Patton

      “The only thing worse then a liar is a liar that’s also a hypocrite!” - Tennessee Williams

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      • #5
        Originally posted by DolphinsFreak
        I think the Dolphins should draft Shaq Lawson and then take Henry or Dixon in the 2nd round rather then trade up and give up a draft pick. I would be fine with the Dolphins drafting Elliot IF he is there at #13 but I don't think moving up is a great idea. JMO
        I agree, I would be torn as to whether to draft Elliott or Lawson if both of them are available at #13. I would not move up though. Elliott could be a game changer for our offense and Lawson is the kind of havoc wreaking DE we need. Its really hard to know if either or both of them will be available. I am not as high on Henry as I previously was. He is the kind of back that needs a dominant o-line to be successful which he had at Alabama. I think Dixon could be a nice option in the 3rd round or Procise or even Collins if we can get him in the 4th round. How about this draft?

        R1. DE Shaq Lawson

        R2. DB Artie Burns or Kendall Fuller

        R3. OG Joshua Garnett or Christian Westerman

        R4. RB CJ Procise or Alex Collins

        R5. LB Nick Vigil or Blake Martinez

        R6. WR Jordan Payton

        R7. FS Deon Bush

        R7. QB Jacob Coker

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        • DolphinsFreak
          DolphinsFreak commented
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          I like that draft !

        • Driven_Phinsane!
          Driven_Phinsane! commented
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          Getting a strong feeling that Artie Burns is gonna be long-gone by the time our # comes up in the 2nd...But I do like the looks of this draft!

      • #6
        Lets say we did take Elliott at #13 if he is available. How would this draft look?

        R1. RB Ezekiel Elliott

        R2. DB Kendall Fuller

        R3. OG Christian Westerman

        R4. DE Charles Tapper

        R5. LB Nick Vigil

        R6. WR Jordan Payton

        R7. FS Deon Bush

        R7. QB Jacob Coker

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        • #7
          I think Henry is going to have a better career than elloit. Elloit is more ready now because his blitz pick up but there is something about Henry that makes me think he is going to be special. If he is on the board when we draft in the second round I will be yelling his name.

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        • #8
          Originally posted by Moonshine23
          I think Henry is going to have a better career than elloit. Elloit is more ready now because his blitz pick up but there is something about Henry that makes me think he is going to be special. If he is on the board when we draft in the second round I will be yelling his name.
          Based on what?

          I'm not a fan of Derrick Henry in the 1st at all, but not highly in the 2nd either. Henry, doesn't have that quick first step and is a slow get off guy who also has to build up his speed going downhill. Make him hesitate or have to turn East or West, or do anything other than run downhill and his tape is littered with him getting leg tackled. If he makes it to the 2nd level, then he's a threat against smaller DBs, but he's not going to outrun secondaries.

          As for Elliott, I don't see a special back, even though he's the top back in THIS draft. As we discussed in some earlier threads on this board, Todd Gurley was special. If you compare Elliott to Todd Gurley, he doesn't have Gurley's same explosive burst, nor Gurley's ability to instantly hit that top gear, and he's not going to run your ass over like Gurley would.

          Elliott seems to either get tackled at the LOS, or he is clean all the way to the 2nd level where he has built up the speed by that time to run away from defenders. His top end speed and versatility makes him the #1 back in this draft. He's not going to be clean into the 2nd level with us.

          I'll understand what we're doing regardless of who we pick, but I'd rather we take a back or even two backs later in the draft. I still think Ajayi is as good as most of the backs in THIS draft and that we need to find complimentary backs to him. We need a speed back as well. I'm high on Keith Marshall and Jhurell Pressley as speed backs. As for all around backs, Ken Dixon and Alex Collins can fill those shoes.

          YMMV.

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          • gulfcoast74
            gulfcoast74 commented
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            Both RBs played behind the best Olines in college football. And both of which are far superior to our crappy soft hole filled nOline.

          • cuchulainn
            cuchulainn commented
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            Hey, GC, yeah, agreed. I don't see either of these guys being as good behind our craptastic OL for sure. Ajayi was better than folks think as he was better than Miller at picking up yards after first contact. Something we'll be looking for I'm sure.

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