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    PFF Quarterback Rankings: All 32 starters ahead of the 2023 NFL season

    1. PATRICK MAHOMES, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

    Mahomes is the standard by which all NFL quarterbacks are now measured. With Manning and Brady now names of the past, Mahomes is the new benchmark pushing the boundaries of what we have seen previously. Since coming into the league, he has 191 big-time throws including the postseason, the most in the NFL. He has also passed for 8.1 yards per attempt, a figure only quarterbacks playing for Kyle Shanahan have surpassed over the same span.

    2. JOSH ALLEN, BUFFALO BILLS

    If Mahomes is the obvious starting point, the next two spots are a toss-up between Buffalo’s Josh Allen and Cincinnati’s Joe Burrow. Each player is capable of elite play and outstanding levels, but the tiebreaker is Allen's rushing ability. It may not be a deal-breaker in every game, but there will be gotta-have-it situations where Allen is virtually unstoppable because of how many different ways he can beat a defense. Burrow can’t bring that to the table.

    3. JOE BURROW, CINCINNATI BENGALS

    Burrow has led the league in PFF passing grade (by fractions) in each of the past two regular seasons. He has shown that, while everybody might be chasing special athletes at the position, just putting the ball in the right place at the right time is still capable of transformative play at the position. He has a career 77.1% adjusted completion rate, and his turnover-worthy play rate has gone down in each of his NFL seasons.


    4. JUSTIN HERBERT, LOS ANGELES CHARGERS


    This is a big year for Herbert to justify the hype that has surrounded him since his phenomenal rookie season. We have seen glimpses of what he is capable of, but he passed for just 6.8 yards per attempt last season and finished eighth in PFF passing grade. Kellen Moore's arrival as the Chargers' offensive coordinator could be the key that fully unlocks Herbert, and if he is, this is where Herbert belongs.

    5. AARON RODGERS, NEW YORK JETS

    We are only a year removed from Rodgers coming off back-to-back MVP seasons, but at 39 years old any downturn in performance inevitably raises questions about whether this is the beginning of the end. The New York Jets should have a better supporting cast than Rodgers had last year in Green Bay, and he will know the offense, so I expect it to be a bounce-back season for the veteran.

    6. LAMAR JACKSON, BALTIMORE RAVENS

    Jackson is a former league MVP. He’s also coming off consecutive injury-marred seasons and is changing offensive systems for the first time in his NFL career. Greg Roman built a bespoke offense around Jackson, but now Jackson has to adapt his game to a more conventional offense under Todd Monken. How Jackson fares this season will go a long way toward cementing his position in rankings like these, one way or another.

    7. JALEN HURTS, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

    Hurts was phenomenal in 2022, but the hardest part of that kind of play in the NFL is sustaining it. Lamar Jackson one spot above him is a great example of that. Hurts has taken big steps forward every season of his career, and if he has another one in the tank, then he is ranked too low at No. 7. Hurts averaged 8.0 yards per attempt last season and added almost 800 rushing yards and 13 touchdowns on the ground.

    8. TREVOR LAWRENCE, JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS

    Lawrence arrived last season. It took him half the year to get the Urban Meyer residue off, but from Week 9 onward, only Burrow and Mahomes earned a higher PFF grade. Billed as a truly generational talent when he was drafted, Lawrence showed that ability in 2022, and the Jaguars have continued to surround him with talent this offseason.

    9. KIRK COUSINS, MINNESOTA VIKINGS

    Cousins is probably at the top of the second tier of quarterbacks — those who you can win with but are unlikely to transform a team into a contender simply by their presence. Cousins has earned a PFF passing grade of at least 77.7 every season in Minnesota. He is an exceptionally accurate passer with plenty of big plays in his arsenal who maybe lacks that transcendent, intangible talent that every team chases at the position.

    10. DAK PRESCOTT, DALLAS COWBOYS

    Prescott has shown himself to be one of the most sensitive quarterbacks in the league to changes in his supporting cast. His overall PFF grade has ranged from 71.8 to 85.2 over his career, and those changes tend to go hand in hand with the level of receiving help and blocking in front of him. Prescott’s turnover-worthy play rate has been above 3.0% in each of the past four seasons, but when at his best he can lead one of the top offenses in the game.

    11. TUA TAGOVAILOA, MIAMI DOLPHINS

    Can Tua back up what we saw in 2022, or was his play beginning to be found out anyway when concussions became the overriding factor in his season? That’s the big question for him and Miami heading into 2023. Tua led the league with a massive 8.9 yards per attempt last season and also had one of the highest average depths of target, having been in the middle of the pack before that. He has elite potential within Mike McDaniel’s offense but now needs to repeat it.


    How do you feel about PFF’s rankings?

    Do you think Tua should be ranked higher, lower, or is he where he should be at?




    🏈 🐬 FINS UP ! 🐬 🏈

  • #2
    Jackson is ranked 6? He sux though!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Wulf View Post
      Jackson is ranked 6? He sux though!
      Jackson has missed 9 games in the past two seasons and the Ravens went 7-9 last season

      I don’t know why he’s ranked so high but I think if Tua and Jackson swapped numbers people would be okay with it
      🏈 🐬 FINS UP ! 🐬 🏈

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      • #4
        Tua at my favorite number!!! Also I feel he is ranked right when he is healthy. 11 is a good number. Up there but also under the radar.
        The happiness of the Dolphin is to exist.... Jacques Cousteau.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by AquaXI View Post
          Tua at my favorite number!!! Also I feel he is ranked right when he is healthy. 11 is a good number. Up there but also under the radar.
          He has improved each season so far, let's hope he makes the big jump this year, and that McD does as well.

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          • AquaXI
            AquaXI commented
            Editing a comment
            Glad we have him as opposed to the Cardinals Murray. Maturity for Tua is off the charts!

        • #6
          Originally posted by PhinPhan68 View Post
          PFF Quarterback Rankings: All 32 starters ahead of the 2023 NFL season

          1. PATRICK MAHOMES, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

          Mahomes is the standard by which all NFL quarterbacks are now measured. With Manning and Brady now names of the past, Mahomes is the new benchmark pushing the boundaries of what we have seen previously. Since coming into the league, he has 191 big-time throws including the postseason, the most in the NFL. He has also passed for 8.1 yards per attempt, a figure only quarterbacks playing for Kyle Shanahan have surpassed over the same span.

          2. JOSH ALLEN, BUFFALO BILLS

          If Mahomes is the obvious starting point, the next two spots are a toss-up between Buffalo’s Josh Allen and Cincinnati’s Joe Burrow. Each player is capable of elite play and outstanding levels, but the tiebreaker is Allen's rushing ability. It may not be a deal-breaker in every game, but there will be gotta-have-it situations where Allen is virtually unstoppable because of how many different ways he can beat a defense. Burrow can’t bring that to the table.

          3. JOE BURROW, CINCINNATI BENGALS

          Burrow has led the league in PFF passing grade (by fractions) in each of the past two regular seasons. He has shown that, while everybody might be chasing special athletes at the position, just putting the ball in the right place at the right time is still capable of transformative play at the position. He has a career 77.1% adjusted completion rate, and his turnover-worthy play rate has gone down in each of his NFL seasons.


          4. JUSTIN HERBERT, LOS ANGELES CHARGERS


          This is a big year for Herbert to justify the hype that has surrounded him since his phenomenal rookie season. We have seen glimpses of what he is capable of, but he passed for just 6.8 yards per attempt last season and finished eighth in PFF passing grade. Kellen Moore's arrival as the Chargers' offensive coordinator could be the key that fully unlocks Herbert, and if he is, this is where Herbert belongs.

          5. AARON RODGERS, NEW YORK JETS

          We are only a year removed from Rodgers coming off back-to-back MVP seasons, but at 39 years old any downturn in performance inevitably raises questions about whether this is the beginning of the end. The New York Jets should have a better supporting cast than Rodgers had last year in Green Bay, and he will know the offense, so I expect it to be a bounce-back season for the veteran.

          6. LAMAR JACKSON, BALTIMORE RAVENS

          Jackson is a former league MVP. He’s also coming off consecutive injury-marred seasons and is changing offensive systems for the first time in his NFL career. Greg Roman built a bespoke offense around Jackson, but now Jackson has to adapt his game to a more conventional offense under Todd Monken. How Jackson fares this season will go a long way toward cementing his position in rankings like these, one way or another.

          7. JALEN HURTS, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

          Hurts was phenomenal in 2022, but the hardest part of that kind of play in the NFL is sustaining it. Lamar Jackson one spot above him is a great example of that. Hurts has taken big steps forward every season of his career, and if he has another one in the tank, then he is ranked too low at No. 7. Hurts averaged 8.0 yards per attempt last season and added almost 800 rushing yards and 13 touchdowns on the ground.

          8. TREVOR LAWRENCE, JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS

          Lawrence arrived last season. It took him half the year to get the Urban Meyer residue off, but from Week 9 onward, only Burrow and Mahomes earned a higher PFF grade. Billed as a truly generational talent when he was drafted, Lawrence showed that ability in 2022, and the Jaguars have continued to surround him with talent this offseason.

          9. KIRK COUSINS, MINNESOTA VIKINGS

          Cousins is probably at the top of the second tier of quarterbacks — those who you can win with but are unlikely to transform a team into a contender simply by their presence. Cousins has earned a PFF passing grade of at least 77.7 every season in Minnesota. He is an exceptionally accurate passer with plenty of big plays in his arsenal who maybe lacks that transcendent, intangible talent that every team chases at the position.

          10. DAK PRESCOTT, DALLAS COWBOYS

          Prescott has shown himself to be one of the most sensitive quarterbacks in the league to changes in his supporting cast. His overall PFF grade has ranged from 71.8 to 85.2 over his career, and those changes tend to go hand in hand with the level of receiving help and blocking in front of him. Prescott’s turnover-worthy play rate has been above 3.0% in each of the past four seasons, but when at his best he can lead one of the top offenses in the game.

          11. TUA TAGOVAILOA, MIAMI DOLPHINS

          Can Tua back up what we saw in 2022, or was his play beginning to be found out anyway when concussions became the overriding factor in his season? That’s the big question for him and Miami heading into 2023. Tua led the league with a massive 8.9 yards per attempt last season and also had one of the highest average depths of target, having been in the middle of the pack before that. He has elite potential within Mike McDaniel’s offense but now needs to repeat it.


          How do you feel about PFF’s rankings?

          Do you think Tua should be ranked higher, lower, or is he where he should be at?



          1. Mahomes No Doubt.

          2. Burrows You've all heard of Mattie Ice, well this is Joe Cool.

          3. Hurts. Didn't know all that much about him but I really like this kid.

          4. Allen. Just a great Player but has shown some panic at times.

          5. Lawrence. Looks like he could be the real deal.

          6. Herbert. Only because he's healthier than Tua but like Tua hasn't really done much yet.

          7. Tua. This is where I honestly feel he should be.

          8. Rodgers. I put him this low because of his age.

          9. Dak. Sometimes great, sometimes not so great.

          10. Jackson. Running back who can throw at times but more injury prone than Tua.

          11. Cousins. Why are we even putting him in this conversation? Fields belongs here more than Cousins.
          While it takes two to have an argument, it only takes one to walk away.

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          • #7
            Originally posted by Dolfan1 View Post

            1. Mahomes No Doubt.

            2. Burrows You've all heard of Mattie Ice, well this is Joe Cool.

            3. Hurts. Didn't know all that much about him but I really like this kid.

            4. Allen. Just a great Player but has shown some panic at times.

            5. Lawrence. Looks like he could be the real deal.

            6. Herbert. Only because he's healthier than Tua but like Tua hasn't really done much yet.

            7. Tua. This is where I honestly feel he should be.

            8. Rodgers. I put him this low because of his age.

            9. Dak. Sometimes great, sometimes not so great.

            10. Jackson. Running back who can throw at times but more injury prone than Tua.

            11. Cousins. Why are we even putting him in this conversation? Fields belongs here more than Cousins.
            Excellent post, Bob!

            I have nothing to add because you posted everything I was thinking LOL
            🏈 🐬 FINS UP ! 🐬 🏈

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            • #8
              Originally posted by Wulf View Post

              He has improved each season so far, let's hope he makes the big jump this year, and that McD does as well.
              Yes!

              Tua definitely needs to make the jump this season but equally as important is that McD does, too

              Everyone is focusing on how Tua needs to stay healthy and improve his game

              But, if McD doesn’t improve his cia hung this season it could derail Tua and anything he’s improved on

              Both HC and QB need to make the “jump” this season in order for the Dolphins to make a real playoff run
              🏈 🐬 FINS UP ! 🐬 🏈

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              • #9
                Originally posted by PhinPhan68 View Post

                Excellent post, Bob!

                I have nothing to add because you posted everything I was thinking LOL
                You know that headache you had a little while ago/ that was me tapping into your brain waves.
                While it takes two to have an argument, it only takes one to walk away.

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                • PhinPhan68
                  PhinPhan68 commented
                  Editing a comment
                  LOL………I thought it was the naked leprechauns with the ball-peen hammers again

              • #10
                Originally posted by Wulf View Post
                Jackson is ranked 6? He sux though!
                If you think he “sucks” I’d say watch more football……however, I don’t believe he should be ranked 6 cause he’s missed a significant amount of games last few seasons.
                Amat Victoria Praeparatio

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                • Wulf
                  Wulf commented
                  Editing a comment
                  Seriously? "Watch more football"?
                  Jackson is a running back who can throw.

              • #11
                Originally posted by Dolfan1 View Post

                1. Mahomes No Doubt.

                2. Burrows You've all heard of Mattie Ice, well this is Joe Cool.

                3. Hurts. Didn't know all that much about him but I really like this kid.

                4. Allen. Just a great Player but has shown some panic at times.

                5. Lawrence. Looks like he could be the real deal.

                6. Herbert. Only because he's healthier than Tua but like Tua hasn't really done much yet.

                7. Tua. This is where I honestly feel he should be.

                8. Rodgers. I put him this low because of his age.

                9. Dak. Sometimes great, sometimes not so great.

                10. Jackson. Running back who can throw at times but more injury prone than Tua.

                11. Cousins. Why are we even putting him in this conversation? Fields belongs here more than Cousins.
                Fields over Cousins???? But you think Jackson is just a RB who can throw the ball?? Fields sucks throwing the ball, absolutely terrible, all he did was run around. I’m taking Cousins over Fields ANYDAY and twice on Sunday, unless he improves reading defenses and accuracy Fields won’t be a starter much longer.
                Amat Victoria Praeparatio

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                • #12
                  Originally posted by Taylortogetya View Post

                  Fields over Cousins???? But you think Jackson is just a RB who can throw the ball?? Fields sucks throwing the ball, absolutely terrible, all he did was run around. I’m taking Cousins over Fields ANYDAY and twice on Sunday, unless he improves reading defenses and accuracy Fields won’t be a starter much longer.
                  Not saying I like Fields, more like I'm saying I think that little of Cousins.

                  What I do find odd though is I was just talking about you a couple hours ago saying you seem to have disappeared and here you are. Guess you read minds too.
                  While it takes two to have an argument, it only takes one to walk away.

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                  • #13
                    Originally posted by Taylortogetya View Post

                    Fields over Cousins???? But you think Jackson is just a RB who can throw the ball?? Fields sucks throwing the ball, absolutely terrible, all he did was run around. I’m taking Cousins over Fields ANYDAY and twice on Sunday, unless he improves reading defenses and accuracy Fields won’t be a starter much longer.
                    So, if you’re in need of a QB in fantasy football you are drafting Cousins over Fields?
                    🏈 🐬 FINS UP ! 🐬 🏈

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                    • #14
                      I find these rankings to be all over the place after the top 3-5 guys. Hurts hasn't done enough long enough to be top 3. He had a great year last year, but just like teams did with Jackson, they will figure out that offense and ways to stop him. He has done enough to be ahead of Tua, but top 3.. Same for Lawerence. We can all agree he is talented and has the tools, but he struggled year one and last year improved on that, but again, has done nothing to deserve to be in front of the guys he's in front of.

                      Tua's injuries and missed games has to be taken into account and this clearly does that. But with that said Dak has also missed significant time so putting him in front of Tua when statistically Tua has had great numbers when on the field doesn't seem right either.

                      I won't rank them after this..

                      Mahomes
                      Allen
                      Burrow

                      Then after that throw a dart at the board and you can stack them anyway you want as far as I'm concerned.
                      The Dynamic Duo ! - BOOM! POW!

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                      • #15
                        This ranking is all over the place.

                        The author admits that the Rodgers ranking is based on his opinion that he will have a bounce back year. Not on the 2022 season

                        As for Tua.... It is where I would expect most to put him... When he played he was elite.... He only played half of the time.

                        Cannot have him in the top 5 unless he plays full time and is healthy.

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