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F***K Marsha Brady!!! -
I was telling Wulf earlier that TB was a good possibilty. Not saying that's what I want, but this smoke has been around for a while, so there must be some truth out there somewhere...
I believe this more than I would AR, since we have no draft picks till 2030 or so....
Good thing TB has money, cause Miami doesn't....Comment
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I want to win a SB. Can Brady on this team be the piece to get over the hump? Maybe we need to rest Tua a good year for health.The happiness of the Dolphin is to exist.... Jacques Cousteau.Comment
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Unless Brady agrees to come as Tua's back up it won't happen. Tua is our QB despite that everyone in the media wants to deny it. Grier was 100% serious when he said Tua was the guy and they expect no residual issues from the concussions this year. I posted the article on the Grier is a liar thread, but I'll copy and paste it here too because the fact is Rogers, Brady, Carr, jimmy G - NONE WILL start for Miami next year - all would be back ups to our starter Tua.. So we can post all these rumors all off season, but I'll put money down right now that Tua is our starter next season, and none of the guys mentioned above will be in Miami as a starter. I could see Jimmy G as a back up. The rest don't want to hold a clip board and will have options to start elsewhere if that's what they choose to do.The Dynamic Duo ! - BOOM! POW!Comment
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Assuming you are right Homer, Brady would be the last QB on the planet that should join this team. I
don’t know the man at all, but having lived in MA during the entirety of his career up north, I was exposed to all things Brady. It was inescapable if you lived in New England. All I can say is that I never warmed up to the guy and the things I saw in his personality only got worse with age and accolades. IMHO Brady is a snake in the grass, a super competitive Ahole. He has this “aw shucks I’m a regular guy” routine down pat but he is a cheat
and slyly subversive. He will come in and rot this team quickly from the inside. And even worse, if the Dolphins allow the fox into the henhouse they will be repeating the Grier/Flores QB mistakes in the most egregious way possible and that might break me if they have learned nothing from the recent past. In the Wild West they hanged men for lesser offenses.
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Kato- You may be right, but I bet there was a Tampa fan saying exactly the same on their forums before he moved there and hey, they went from average to SB winners.
The difference here is that he's a couple of years older and therefore could he have the same effect on us?
As a one off year...not for the future but just one season, I'd be surprised if many said they prefer Tua over TB....especially with Tuas recent issues.
Put it another way....out of the two, who would have the better chance of getting Dolphins to a Superbowl?
If the O Line could protect Brady with Hill and Waddle in the back field, it could open the lock to some devastating yardage for our WR core.
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A doctor who helped develop the widely used test for concussion recovery agrees with the Dolphins. With proper rest, Tua Tagovailoa isn’t at elevated risk for more concussions.
Key doctor backs Dolphins' Chris Grier: Tua Tagovailoa isn't automatically concussion risk
Hal Habib
Palm Beach Post
It’s not often that Dolphins general manager Chris Grier pushes back with the force he used when asked if Tua Tagovailoa’s history with concussions doesn’t place him at a higher risk of suffering additional concussions.
Of all the issues confronting the Dolphins, it’s difficult to find one more critical not only to their future, but Tagovailoa’s. So any conclusions by Grier, the Dolphins’ medical team and Tagovailoa’s doctors must be reached with the gravity they deserve.
Don’t experts believe Tagovailoa is placing himself at increased risk by continuing to play?
“That is not a true statement,” Grier said.
Grier's stance is supported not just by team and union doctors Tagovailoa has seen, but independent experts on concussions who have not treated the quarterback. Dr. Joseph Maroon said just because a football player has suffered a concussion, it doesn't automatically place him at a greater risk of another.
Maroon is a neurological consultant for the Pittsburgh Steelers and a clinical professor at the University of Pittsburgh. He’s also a member of the American Association of Neurological Surgeons, which on its website cites the University of Pittsburgh’s Brain Trauma Research Center in saying, “The risk of concussion in football is three to six times higher in players who have had a previous concussion.”
But there are many gray areas in the subject of concussions and for Maroon, this is one of them.
“My caveat: If the brain is not fully recovered, there’s a higher incidence,” he said.
That caveat is critical. The Dolphins’ season just ended, so Tagovailoa could go as long as September without being subjected to contact again.
“Given all offseason with no more contact, the odds are very, very positive that he would be returning next year,” Maroon said, adding he would not have any added concern for Tagovailoa’s well-being.
Maroon and Dr. Gillian Hotz, director of the University of Miami’s UHealth Concussion Program, stress the importance of giving the brain time to heal before returning to play. Tagovailoa suffered his most recent concussion on Christmas against Green Bay, after which coach Mike McDaniel repeatedly said decisions on when Tagovailoa could ramp up activity were solely up to doctors.
“They’re the experts in those fields and when they tell us that he’s ready to play … then we’ll press forward,” McDaniel said at his end-of-season news conference.
By then, Tagovailoa had sat out the Dolphins’ final three games, including a wild-card loss to Buffalo.
McDaniel and Grier say Tagovailoa will continue to be their franchise quarterback.
“I don’t think he’s any more prone than anyone else,” Grier said. Chris Nowinski also on board in concussion assessment
Boynton Beach’s Chris Nowinski agreed. Nowinski is co-founder of the Concussion Legacy Foundation and questioned to ESPN whether Tagovailoa’s issues this past season may have been the result of rushing him back on the field — not durability. Writing on the CLF website, Nowinski said it’s unfair to say Tagovailoa is concussion-prone.
“A cluster of concussions, or even long-term symptoms, does not prevent a successful return or long career,” Nowinski wrote.
That’s not to suggest there’s no limit on the number of concussions a player can suffer before a doctor says it’s time to hang it up.
“I’ve advised many athletes to give up hockey as well as football,” Maroon said.
Before reaching that point, Maroon looks for lingering symptoms, issues with cognition and abnormalities on scans. He uses a before-and-after snapshot of an athlete’s cognitive skills, which is possible via the ImPACT test, which Maroon helped devise in the 1990s with doctors Mark Lovell and Michael Collins.
Taking about 20 minutes, ImPACT measures skills such as brain speed and ability to process information. It has been administered 23 million times, in all levels of competition. The "before" baseline is established in preseason. Following a concussion, the test is repeated to help determine when to clear an athlete.
Tagovailoa became a national focal point when he was injured Sept. 25 vs. the Buffalo Bills. He returned to that game, with the Dolphins saying he'd suffered a back injury rather than a concussion. Four days later, during a prime-time game against Cincinnati, Tagovailoa suffered a concussion requiring a trip to the hospital. The Dolphins’ problems were multiplied the following week when his replacement, Teddy Bridgewater, was judged to have stumbled by the NFL’s spotter high above. It disqualified Bridgewater from the game.
Here, too, might soon be another tool to take subjectivity out of the equation. Maroon sees potential for a mouthguard developed by Prevent Biometrics that measures the G-force of hits. Those statistics would be accessible to spotters via transmitter after every play. If experts agree on a maximum level of G-force before a concussion occurs, it could remove uncertainty from cases such as Bridgewater’s. The mouthguards are in use in rugby overseas.
“I think something like this is coming (to the NFL),” Maroon said.The Dynamic Duo ! - BOOM! POW!Comment
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NO NO NON NYET NADA AʻOLE to Brady
“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” – Mark TwainComment
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I don't care what any of the so-called "experts" say...I say this...have you watched Tua hit the turf when falling backwards??!! If you have, no need to elaborate! Until Tua learns how to roll or avoid slamming his head on the back of his helmet, he will "concuss" away the rest of his career! The boy needs to learn how to avoid the helmet slam", or at least how to reduce it!Comment
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Lol rest him for a year then sign him?? He would be up for a contract……ya that’s not happening.Originally posted by AquaXI View Post
Brady was top 10 in almost every passing category, at 41, or however old he is. Completion %, he was about 70 yards from being 2nd behind Mahomes in yards, Top 8 in TDs, he was also one of the least QBs sacked, someone that old and the least mobile QB in the league that’s pretty damn good, he gets the ball out Fast……..this team would be a lot better with Brady rather anybody likes it or not, now I’m not saying I want this to happen but if it did I wouldn’t be madLast edited by Taylortogetya; 01-26-2023, 11:00 PM.Amat Victoria PraeparatioComment
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Totally agree. I hate short term solutions as I prefer to plan long term, but let's be honest, with Brady, even at 45, he could have a special one off season here with the WR core we have.Last edited by EnglishFinFan; 01-27-2023, 08:36 AM. -
all brady did is throw it, that's why he had numbers, dude threw 60 times in his last game for 300 yards, yeah thats not a joke, those are real stats. Tua does the same in a quarter of those throws when healthy, brady is and has always been trash if not supported by cheating, refs, or crazy talent he's just what he was drafted, a 7th round qb..
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I just got an alert on my phone that says Tua is still in concussion protocol, that’s five weeks now, is everyone really on board resigning a guy that’s only going to play 75% of the season???
Fckn insane! If we do re-sign him Grier better sign a real reliable backupAmat Victoria PraeparatioComment
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grier should obviously wait til the season is over until he proves his health. The reason tua is hurt is because we've had two extremely dumb coaches as far as protecting their qb. It doesn't matter who was here, they would have been hurt with the lines and play calls they were given. Tannehill was very rare as far as the punishment he could take and him not complaining about it actually killed his career because the idiot coaches that were in charge just kept on doing the same stupid thing over and over.
You can't give 0 protection to a qb and complain why he is hurt later.
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Think of the 4th&1 that turned into the 4th&6 in the playoff game. Do you think TB would’ve allowed/executed that playcall from MM that Thompson had no choice but to do?! TB’s presnap smarts, along with the weapons on this offense (currently), would obviously be a dream come true. He would help MM in his play calling failures. Plus a bonus for Tua’s long-term health concerns. He can backup TB, for a year off to heal.Comment
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brady is the biggest fraud ever in professional sports, he makes lebron james look legit in that all lebron did was do a ton of roids, go from superteam to superteam and cry a lot. Brady is what he was drafted, a backup that got saved by a good coach and kickers. They cheated to win everything they got and dude should be ashamed to ever show his face anywhere, not just them cheating but the endless phantom flags the league gave him to constantly bail him out of 3 and outs and to win games.
If brady became a qb on this team i wouldn't be able to watch for 10 years, if he became part owner, I'd be done caring about them until he was gone or permanently because the dolphins used to be a classy org with shula but it would show they have no class left if he has anything to do with this team. Shula hated bb because he was a cheat and called him out for it and brady is everything kids are taught not to be in sports. Dude did nothing but cheat and whine his entire career and make a joke out of professional sports just so he could get fake fame and money.Comment
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I don't care how big a fraud the guy is...I don't care if he fiddles his tax returns...if he came here and took us to a Superb owl, I'm sure all of us would forgive it.
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Any dolphins fan who would want brady as the qb has lot any dignity they had left as a fan, how many times did this guy cheat us out of wins in the past 20 years? How much more success would we have had if it wasn't for his and the refs cheating?
If shula were coaching during belicheck era it would never have happened near to that extend because he called out the cheating. This franchise used to be considered the best in the league 15 years ago and known for being a classy franchise, yet you would now celebrate the biggest cheat/fraud of all time to play for it and one that has cost us a ton of games just by his own cheating alone, comon man.
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Fair enough. I’m just more looking at the position with ALL things considered. (Injury, health, win now). Pre-snap, reading a defense’s tendencies, there’s no one better in the game than TB, to this day. BONUS = TB coaching up Tua in this department during the season. Along with working with MM .Comment
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And talk about “fraud”, look no further than BB & Kraft. Here’s my “2” points to consider. #1= Let go of the Shula BS, it’s 2023. The ONLY reason BB is still coaching is to get the #348th win, believe it. Cuz it WILL happen, then how will you digest that? Way I see it, an eye for an eye! #2= Think of contending conference QB’s this year, Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Lawrence, Herbert,……..Tua?! OR ……..TB?Comment
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Tom brady is trash and always has been, when he doesn't have the refs constantly bailing him out of 3 and outs and him knowing the opposing teams play's every year, he was drafted in the 6ths or 7th round for a reason. Who cares if bb surpasses his wins, everybody knows it wasn't real.
The fact that you would want brady over tua just shows how little you're paying attention or how much you care about legitimate competition.
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