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  • Trying to understand the Tannenbaum direction in FA

    I am not a fan of Tannenbaum but, try to look at things fairly. I'm not getting his plan so far in FA. FWIW, here's my rundown with nothing but questions.

    DE- We signed Mario for 2 years at $17M, and it does appear we are keeping Wake for around $20M over the next 2 years, totaling $37M for the pair. Mario is 31 and coming off a really bad year, and Wake is 34 coming off a bad year and a major injury. This is who we want and also need to sign another to take a lot of snaps from Wake.

    We pass on OV, who had a really good year and is 25, and I had the same $12M value on him but, another team will sign him for $13-15M a year. We appear to have passed on Shelby, who had a VG year, and will likely get around $4M a year, totaling around $38M for 2 years if we go high on OV.

    I do not know about anyone else but, for this team at this time, I would never give up 2 young building blocks coming off VG years for 2 older guys who did not.
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    CB- We want to trade for Maxwell (along with Kiko) for $18M for 2 years. He had a bad year and has an injury. We offset the cost by cutting Grimes (a good move). However, we drop down 5 spots in the draft. On the draft value chat, not a bad deal but, in reality the chances of getting a great player diminish. We could easily sign someone younger, better, and healthy for close to the same.

    Again, I am lost in dropping down in the draft for a player coming off a bad year with an injury.
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    RB- We are letting Miller go because another team is giving him an extra $1.5M a year. I had his value at $5M a year as well. Some say RB's are easily replaceable and getting another is no problem. I look at what he has done the last 2 years behind the very worst run blocking OL in football and disagree, and he is 24.

    We restructured Cameron to bring him down to $6M a year. While misused, he had a bad year and is worth more than Miller???
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    Quick re-cap. We are paying a ton of money for older players coming off bad years and some injuries.

    We are not paying for young building blocks who have played very well.

    The logic and direction does not compute.

  • #2
    I don't think any of these moves were made in a vacuum... it's not like TBaum locked himself in an office and started making deals. Gase and his staff were involved along with Grier.

    The trade netted 2 potential Vet starters who have played at a high level in the past. It kept us in the Top 15 and it dropped our contract commitment to the draft by $1.6M. We're still in a good spot to draft a day 1 starter.

    DE - OV was not worth $12-$15M+ per season. He just wasn't... Wake and Williams will be a pass rushing duo and will spell and compete with each other. We're not thru at the DE position either and we still have Damontre Moore and just brought down Cleyon Laing. We'll probably draft a guy as well. I'd like to keep Shelby too.

    CB - IMO, Maxwell is an upgrade over Taylor and we'll draft another guy early... Alexander, Fuller, Apple, Jones, etc... we also still have Bobby McCain and Tony Lippett.

    LB - If healthy, Kiko Alonso is the best LB on the roster. He cost us nothing and is a low risk/high reward type player.

    RB - We all wanted to keep Miller, but couldn't justify $6.5M for a 2 down back who doesn't run with power. Ajayi and Williams should be able to pick up the slack and we'll likely draft a guy.

    Hard to get upset over changes to a team that seems most consistent at under-performing. Defense was historically bad and the OL is always in turmoil.

    YMMV.
    Last edited by cuchulainn; 03-09-2016, 06:08 PM.

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    • AquaXI
      AquaXI commented
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      Agree in a nut shell.

    • Bahamas
      Bahamas commented
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      what does YMMV mean?

    • cuchulainn
      cuchulainn commented
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      YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary - basically means your thoughts may vary from mine...

  • #3
    Originally posted by So Be View Post
    I am not a fan of Tannenbaum but, try to look at things fairly. I'm not getting his plan so far in FA. FWIW, here's my rundown with nothing but questions.

    DE- We signed Mario for 2 years at $17M, and it does appear we are keeping Wake for around $20M over the next 2 years, totaling $37M for the pair. Mario is 31 and coming off a really bad year, and Wake is 34 coming off a bad year and a major injury. This is who we want and also need to sign another to take a lot of snaps from Wake.

    We pass on OV, who had a really good year and is 25, and I had the same $12M value on him but, another team will sign him for $13-15M a year. We appear to have passed on Shelby, who had a VG year, and will likely get around $4M a year, totaling around $38M for 2 years if we go high on OV.

    I do not know about anyone else but, for this team at this time, I would never give up 2 young building blocks coming off VG years for 2 older guys who did not.
    __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________

    CB- We want to trade for Maxwell (along with Kiko) for $18M for 2 years. He had a bad year and has an injury. We offset the cost by cutting Grimes (a good move). However, we drop down 5 spots in the draft. On the draft value chat, not a bad deal but, in reality the chances of getting a great player diminish. We could easily sign someone younger, better, and healthy for close to the same.

    Again, I am lost in dropping down in the draft for a player coming off a bad year with an injury.
    __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________________________________

    RB- We are letting Miller go because another team is giving him an extra $1.5M a year. I had his value at $5M a year as well. Some say RB's are easily replaceable and getting another is no problem. I look at what he has done the last 2 years behind the very worst run blocking OL in football and disagree, and he is 24.

    We restructured Cameron to bring him down to $6M a year. While misused, he had a bad year and is worth more than Miller???
    __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _________________________________________

    Quick re-cap. We are paying a ton of money for older players coming off bad years and some injuries.

    We are not paying for young building blocks who have played very well.

    The logic and direction does not compute.


    If we keep Wake for 2 yr 20M, LOL, don't waste your time watching Miami games next year, you'll be very disappointed, it will make last year seem like Disney World....

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    • #4
      Tannenbaum makes strong move to solidify this trade. Out are the soccer trainers and their ouchey spray, in is Miracle Max from the Princess Bride. For all the doubters, these are great football players who are only "mostly dead". Confused by bringing in a SS with six games under his belt when we already have the best one in the game unless Joseph sees a souped up version of Reggie Nelson in Reshad Jones. He has everything it takes to play a ballhawking, bone crushing Centerfield but Quddus has big shoes to fill taking Reshad away from the line if scrimmage. We are oozing with talent.
      "Knock, knock."
      "Who's there?"
      "O line."
      "O line who?"
      Exactly

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      • AquaXI
        AquaXI commented
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        Best knock knock joke ever hehehe! Unfortunately it's about the Dolphins hehehe!!!

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