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  • Combine notes: Worst Offensive class in years

    Best offensive player in the entire draft: Ezekiel Elliott


  • #2
    Interesting notes...

    "This is not a good class. No matter how much you guys in the media try to spin it."
    So, there's that.
    He calmed down after the food arrived. He had been hungry and grumpy. Now, he was just grumpy.
    The scout is one of the more respected in football, and based on interviews with a half-dozen personnel evaluators, he's not the only one who feels this way. (Well, the Dilfer comparison is a little extreme.) His overall point wasn't just about quarterbacks, and it wasn't crazy, either. This is what he was saying:
    Not only is the quarterback talent in this draft barely above average. The overall offensive talent is as well.
    "This is one of the worst drafts for offensive talent in the past four or five years," the scout said.
    One thing that factors into this belief: Wide receivers ran the slowest 40-yard dash times since 2011. Speed certainly isn't everything, but it has become a large part of football.
    Another factor: I've heard repeatedly from team officials that they think the best player in the draft is Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott—not any quarterback, not Ole Miss offensive lineman Laremy Tunsil, not any receiver. Running backs are not supposed to be the most captivating prospects for a passing league, but here we are.
    The scout's main problem with the draft is the top quarterbacks: Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, Paxton Lynch and Connor Cook. They are more workout wonders than players with skill, the scout said, and he believes it will be three to four years before a team sees a return from any of them.
    "There is talent there, but it's marginal," he said. "They've all been inflated by the fact they know how to work out at the combine, but the tape isn't really all that impressive to me."
    It's possible the scout is wrong, but this scout is rarely in error. I get the feeling we will look back at this draft—at the quarterbacks in particular—and wince.
    Now, watch them all make the Hall of Fame.

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    • #3
      When I read the quotes by the scout I had Charlie Casserly's voice playing in my head. I could see/hear him saying those words. I don't know what his label is these days but I don't think scout would be it, so it must have been someone else.

      I for one am hoping that teams disagree with this scout because I am hoping that there is a run on quarterbacks with the top 10 picks.

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      • #4
        A bad class is why Wentz is the #1 QB... he played less in college than Tannehill did.

        Goff is tiny as well. He has a smaller frame than RG3.

        Dak Prescott may end up the best of the bunch as a 3rd or 4th rounder.

        Treadwell is the best of the receivers. Elliott clearly the best overall skill player.

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        • #5
          The only facts about the combine and the draft is that nobody knows what they're talking about. It's anybody's guess as to who is going to make the transition from college football to the NFL. Owners pay millions for scouts, GM's, etc and people I know in person and on this forum have made better predictions then most of the so-called experts. Paxton Lynch 'was' the clear-cut #1 quarterback a month ago and now they have him slipping into the 2nd round. The Browns may take him with their number two pick and it shouldn't shock anyone.

          This is an odd group of quarterbacks. There areAndrew Luck standouts.They all seem to be pretty close. I will go on record as saying that although his numbers in college are extremely impressive, I think Goff will have a hard time in the NFL and Wendz will be a better NFL quarterback.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by cuchulainn View Post
            A bad class is why Wentz is the #1 QB... he played less in college than Tannehill did.

            Goff is tiny as well. He has a smaller frame than RG3.

            Dak Prescott may end up the best of the bunch as a 3rd or 4th rounder.

            Treadwell is the best of the receivers. Elliott clearly the best overall skill player.
            IMO, the O pretty much suck on O in this draft, and the D is VG. Lucky Dolphins.

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            • #7
              We could get walk ons to try out and they would do better than 4/5ths of the OL we have....

              Spend on D, we have NO LB'ers and only 1 Secondary player....

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