Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Dolphins Transition Tag Olivier Vernon

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Dolphins Transition Tag Olivier Vernon

    Dolphins assigned the transition tag to DE Olivier Vernon.

    Vernon is free to negotiate with other teams, but the Dolphins will have the right to match any offer. They will not receive any compensation if they choose not to match. It is an interesting decision after the Dolphins lost Charles Clay on the transition tag last offseason. Vernon will earn $12.734 million if he plays out the season under the tag, but he is almost certain to land a long-term deal in free agency. Whether that deal will be with the Dolphins or another team remains an open question. Vernon should receive at least $12 million annually on his next deal. Mar 1 - 11:35 AM

    ROTOWORLD


    For the second straight year, the Dolphins are using the transition tag. The question now becomes whether, for the second straight year, the move results in the tagged player changing teams. Last year, it was tight end Charles Clay, who signed an offer sheet with the Bills that the Dolphins didn’t match. This year, per a team source, it’s defensive end Olivier Vernon.

    For defensive ends, the difference between the transition tag and the franchise tag is nearly $3 million in 2016 guaranteed salary. It becomes an even more significant difference on a long-term deal driven by the tag.

    If Vernon signs the trendier, he’ll be entitled to $12.734 million fully guaranteed in 2016.

    Vernon’s deal could be driven not by the tag but by the market, with Miami holding the right to match, but no compensation. It’s an invitation, as it was a year ago, for another team to load up the cannon and concoct an offer sheet that Miami can’t or won’t match.

    If another team signs Vernon to an offer sheet, Miami will have five days to make a decision. With precious few pass rushers on the market and with teams like the Raiders and Jaguars flush with cap space, the Dolphins could end up seeing Vernon get an offer than Miami will have to refuse to meet.

    PRO FOOTBALL TALK
    Last edited by DolphinsFreak; 03-01-2016, 01:08 PM.

  • #2
    I have a feeling someone will try to sign him. We can even match any offer and still yrade him if we wanted to.
    The deeper the roots, the higher the reach.

    Comment


    • #3
      this is a wise choice...no team will give up two 1st rounder under the franchise tag for OV...Von Miller...i'm interested....

      Comment


      • Bahamas
        Bahamas commented
        Editing a comment
        you just ruined my Tuesday

      • Dolfan1
        Dolfan1 commented
        Editing a comment
        Sorry Bro, It is what it is though. Better you found out now.

      • Bahamas
        Bahamas commented
        Editing a comment
        I'm glad it was you that told me ;P

    • #4
      This is good news..I was really worried that we were gonna franchise him and there's no way he's currently worth just under 16 mill. for a year, no way, no hell, no how! This allows the market to set the price and while it's true we may lose out on him to a team that foolishly throws tons of money his way, i'm glad for a change that team won't be us!

      Comment


      • Driven_Phinsane!
        Driven_Phinsane! commented
        Editing a comment
        yeah, i agree brov...Almost betting that a team like Oakland that has tons of $$ to spend will throw tons of it at him & as far as i'm concerned, better them than us! What sucks is that OV may turn out to be a stud, but IMO he's currently just a good player, nothing more, nothing less...

      • Dolfan1
        Dolfan1 commented
        Editing a comment
        Oak and Jax both have money to burn so let them burn it. Ted thinks OV may be the next Hainesworth and disappear once he gets paid. I can't argue that and tend to agree with it.

      • Bahamas
        Bahamas commented
        Editing a comment
        OV with Mack in Oak would be legit...they might be building something special in that city..but let them over pay. Remember this is the team that signs everyone in Free agency to stupid contacts...I think they are still paying Joey Potter and Justin Tuck

    • #5
      I do NOT want him back with the Dolphins!!!!!!!!! Not for that much money! I will be hoping any team will 'think" he is worthy of that much money per year so the Dolphins are not stuck paying him that and reducing the opportunity to go after other players that could help them more. There are many DE's in this draft who can do more that OV, for much less money.

      Comment


      • #6
        Well - I think this will be as effective as it was last year with Charles Clay. He'll get paid and leave, we'll lose a good player entering their prime for nothing. Brilliant, Miami. Just brilliant.

        Comment


        • Alpha
          Alpha commented
          Editing a comment
          I would have franchised him then worked on a long term deal while exploring trade options. The difference is like 3 million - but for that there's no way we end up getting nothing AND losing a starter. Totally stupid move.

        • DolphinsFreak
          DolphinsFreak commented
          Editing a comment
          According to SoBe the Dolphins did try and work out a deal for him but he thought he was worth a great deal more. For once I happen to agree with the front office of the Dolphins on this one. I do NOT think OV is worthy of anything more than about 9-10 million and that is stretching it, so if he and/or other teams think he is worth more I think the Dolphins made the correct decision here. Let him walk..............

        • Driven_Phinsane!
          Driven_Phinsane! commented
          Editing a comment
          Franchising him would've inevtably blown up in the Fins face, as i said when a guy gets to thinking he's one of the best & deserves to be paid that way, it is what it is...That being said he probably will move on & become one of the best,,, IT'S THE DOLPHIN WAY...

      • #7
        Miami offered around $12M a year which I thought he should cost. I think we looked into the tag and trade without any takers. Tannenbaum and the team has access to info on what other teams are thinking of Vernon and his price tag. Teams may lie but you sort out that risk.

        Teams will look at Miami's cap situation, and try to offer a poison pill where the team cannot match their offer, as did Buff last year, and offer a lot in the first year because of the Dolphins space and needs. The difference this year is the Suh restructure to be used if needed. I do not see us open to any poison pill.

        We will see what other teams offer. I do not believe that it will be $15M a year. This may turn out to be a VG move.

        Comment


        • #8
          I think another team is going to offer him a lucrative deal that we will decide not to match. He will probably get a 5 year $70 million deal with about $35 million guaranteed.

          It looks like DE has become a major need. I would look to restructure Wake's deal by extending him another year for some cap relief. Then we must draft a DE in the first 3 rounds.

          If we only drafted Ziggy Ansah instead of Dion Jordan back in 2013 we would not be in such dire need of a DE.

          Comment


          • #9
            I think this was a good move considering a long-term deal wasn't reached. This allows the market to set OVs value. I think a team will overbid and we will not be able to match and nor should we. I really thought OV would be here for a long time but I don't see it now.

            Comment


            • #10
              We look at some of these moves from a fans point of view. Imagine if you are a player that has no ties to the Dolphins prior to being signed with them. The turnover rate in their front office and coaching staff is a joke. They are FAR from being a playoff team. Why would anyone want to stay in Miami right now? Hopefully Ross got lucky and Gase can turn this team around. There is some really talented young players on this roster, there just isn't enough talent to have a complete team. Tannenbaum needs to hit home runs in free agency and the draft in order for this team to be competitive this season. NO, I will not bother giving any credit or fault to Grier, he is just a puppet for Tannenbaum, or a fallguy if things get ugly so he can keep his job. Make no mistake about it, this is the Tannenbaum show.

              Comment


              • #11
                Originally posted by VAIDER5120 View Post
                I think this was a good move considering a long-term deal wasn't reached. This allows the market to set OVs value. I think a team will overbid and we will not be able to match and nor should we. I really thought OV would be here for a long time but I don't see it now.
                I thought so too. If the rumors are correct I am surprised that he didn't take the 12 million. Teams must be hurting at the DE position to think he is worth more. As you stated in another thread, which was great by the way, OV feasts at the table Suh sets. Without Suh is OV going to do anything for another team? I don't think so...................

                Comment


                • #12
                  Originally posted by DolphinsFreak View Post

                  I thought so too. If the rumors are correct I am surprised that he didn't take the 12 million. Teams must be hurting at the DE position to think he is worth more. As you stated in another thread, which was great by the way, OV feasts at the table Suh sets. Without Suh is OV going to do anything for another team? I don't think so...................
                  Without Suh he will still have plenty of 15 yard PF at the worst possible time. Don't mind seeing him leave at all.

                  Comment


                  • #13
                    Originally posted by gulfcoast74 View Post

                    Without Suh he will still have plenty of 15 yard PF at the worst possible time. Don't mind seeing him leave at all.
                    Sounds like a Raider already. He can go play for them and call _________hus new home. Vegas? Oakland? Either way it will be a downgrade from beautiful Miami.

                    Comment


                    • #14
                      It somewhat fascinates me that fans are looking for things to blame OV for having a really good year. I watch the ol on tape every game, and there was not one time that the LT came off Vernon to block Suh. I'm not discounting the advantage Suh brings but, give the guy a break and appreciate what he has done. NFL teams do and will show that in going after him but, what do they know?

                      Comment

                      Unconfigured Ad Widget

                      Collapse
                      Working...
                      X