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  • A telling number on Gase

    Everyone keeps talking about what a "hot" candidate Gase was. And how he almost got hired last year. Well there were 7 NFL coaches hired and none of them were Adam Gase. How did such a "hot" candidate lose out to the likes of Tomsula in SF, or Bowles in NY? I think the "hot" candidate is PR not reality.

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    I probably won't do the research but thinking when all these teams hired their coaches and if the Broncos were in the playoffs hunt. Timing is everything on both sides. Maybe Gase was choosy and wanted only certain Jobs or maybe he waited until later so as to not be a distraction on the Broncos run.
    The deeper the roots, the higher the reach.

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    • #3
      From what I read, he was initially blocked from interviewing by John Fox in Denver. As for the 9ers, he didn't want to be forced to retain Tomsula, who that team is infatuated with for some reason. That was like when Ross rejected Ireland's choice of Mike McCoy over McCoy not readily agreeing to retain Todd Bowles. Huge mistake not to have let Ireland hire McCoy, especially for clueless Joe Philbin, who was an OC in name only. At least Gase actually has a track record in the NFL and has called plays for 2 franchises - he's already more accomplished than our last 2 or 3 HCs...

      Gase wasn't my 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice for a HC, but I'm warming up to him.
      Last edited by cuchulainn; 01-14-2016, 10:41 AM.

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      • #4
        Also, Chicago went from 27th in the league in rushing prior to his arrival to 11th in his first season there. They also moved up to 6th in attempts over 30th, and 12th in rushing TDs from 26th before he took over.

        Miller (if re-signed) and Ajayi should be heavily featured, something we've all been clamoring for and what will help take the load off Tannehill to have to singularly carry the offense to such a lop-sided differential.

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        • Idahomer
          Idahomer commented
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          I also read where Cutler's sack numbers were the best they've been despite injuries to starters on the oline. He gives Gase credit for designing schemes that allowed Cutler to get the ball out quicker.

        • cuchulainn
          cuchulainn commented
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          Yep, and Cutler's efficiency was the best ever of his entire career.

      • #5
        It was written that the 49ers indeed offered him the HC position last year under the condition that he would keep Tomsolua as his DC. He turned the job down since they wouldn't let him bring in his own DC. I've seen that on several occasions. Bowles was also interviewed by several clubs in 2014, but didn't receive a job until the Jets hired him in 2015 - that sure seems like a solid hire by the Jets now doesn't it?

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        • cuchulainn
          cuchulainn commented
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          Good points. And honestly, it's all a crap shoot anyway.

      • #6
        Why didn't John Elway hire him if he was so great? He may be good or bad as only time will tell but I for one will NOT be drinking the F'ing Kool-Aid. Franchise history is NOT in Gases or the fans favor.

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        • cuchulainn
          cuchulainn commented
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          Seasoning and experience were listed. They didn't think he was ready 2 years ago, though Elway and Payton both gushed over his intellect and ability. He helped the Broncos set the NFL record for points scored in a season and despite what people think of Manning, he himself and others on the offense said Gase was the architect and called the plays - Payton did have the ability to audible out though depending on what defenses were doing.

        • VAIDER5120
          VAIDER5120 commented
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          You mean 1 year ago as in last year not ready?

      • #7
        I am happy that we hired Adam Gase as our HC. He has been mentored by some very good coaches like Nick Saban and John Fox. Also he spent a lot of time around Peyton Manning so I think he knows a good deal about offense. There were other teams interested in him like the Eagles and Giants. I think we needed to hire a young HC with some energy and passion. The fact that he has never been a HC before does not bother me. I think we are all going to be pleasantly surprised.

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        • #8
          If Gase can take Tannehill back to Quarterbacking 101 and retrain him from snap to delivery, it's possible to see continued progress from 17. Teaching 17 to feel the rush and tap dance around the pocket to make room to keep throwing lanes to multiple options downfield is mandatory. Too often he is forced to throw short because his failure to move off his original set leaves him no room or time to step into a throw and hit an open guy downfield. He must develop a repore between his O line and himself so that they know what to expect if 17 moves from his spot and he knows how to put his Oline in the best position to recover and regain leverage on rushers when they are initially beaten or out-leveraged. Learning to cut off his drop and hit receivers left unattended by blitzers is mandatory. Can you remember 17 ever making a team pay for blitzing him. I can't . He takes the sack, throws a three yard pass, forces a ball into coverage or collapses at the knees, and goes into his 'Back and to the right" escape routine which is usually followed by a jump pass to nobody downfield or an arcing pass ten yards out of bounds. Never does he locate hot receivers left uncovered right off the line nor does he ever loft a swing pass out in front of his running backs and allow them to race past the front seven and into open field. When he does go to his backs it's usually too late, thrown too hard and behind them, stopping their moment and getting them stuck by LBs. Recognizing lanes left by stunting and twisting defensive fronts and charging forward for easy first downs is another point of emphasis. It's a thing of beauty when he does it. We know the son of a gun can run but what good is it if he doesn't use it every time the defense offers it? Gase is taking on a lot trying to run a team that will have many of the Campbell backers very impatient with him and many of the Tannehill dissenters expecting instant results. The only number Gase has to be concerned with is 6. Because if 17 doesn't put that number up on the board early and often, mutiny will soon follow. By the team, the local media and certainly by the fan base.

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          • cuchulainn
            cuchulainn commented
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            There's nothing wrong with his delivery. His issues are with his footwork and with his OL often not giving him time to either complete his drop back or scan the field.

            As far as making a team pay for blitzing him - you have a short memory or only focus on negative plays. The most memorable of the season was when he burned the Giants with a 47 yard TD strike to Stills against the blitz in a 3rd and long situation where he audibled out of the play originally called and burned them for the TD.

            Next year is a clean slate in a new offense. Judge him at the end of next season behind a (hopefully) improved OL - it's the one that is going to determine his future - if he has one here.
            Last edited by cuchulainn; 01-14-2016, 10:42 AM.

        • #9
          I dont hate untill there is a reason to.
          Then I will hate that bitch with a white hot passion.

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          • #10
            If he makes Tannehill a top three QB does it turn this team around? Maybe we then get to 9-7 and squeak into the playoffs? This team needs a lot more than a QB whisperer. And this guy has a whopping three years of OC experience, two with Manning who is arguably the smartest, and best QB in history. Then Cutler who went from the cellar to the middle of the pack. I am sorry but who is going to RUN the team? Turn around the defense? At best he is a long shot. And his press conference didn't give me much comfort. He looked nervous, scared and unsure.

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          • #11
            Originally posted by Finatic View Post
            If he makes Tannehill a top three QB does it turn this team around? Maybe we then get to 9-7 and squeak into the playoffs? This team needs a lot more than a QB whisperer. And this guy has a whopping three years of OC experience, two with Manning who is arguably the smartest, and best QB in history. Then Cutler who went from the cellar to the middle of the pack. I am sorry but who is going to RUN the team? Turn around the defense? At best he is a long shot. And his press conference didn't give me much comfort. He looked nervous, scared and unsure.
            I think that's just his personality. He always looks like that. If he can help Tannehill improve yet again and bring in a fluid offense that uses the backs and TEs for more than an afterthought, I'm all for it.

            Still, a lot is going to ride on Grier's first draft and FA period though as well as what Vance Johnson can do with the defense. Waiting to see what Gase's entire staff is going to look like.

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