Inside The power running the Fins

[hawkfinfan]

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/sp...e53964610.html


I know it's Mando but this does not sound good at all


Philbin didn't like RT? Was he prevented from drafting another QB by the front office/owner? Philbin has never said one word about this or the FO, so why let this tidbit out? Now Philbin has a bad rep because of the Fins, but if RT flames out with Gase? It makes the FO/Owner look even worse. Is that possible?


Dan Campbell. Pissed off. Well they filled him up with expectations, they gave the job to a guy outside because Campbell didn't have experience? What was the interm for? That's more than Gase had. Not a DC fan, but that's what they told him? Wow! You can't make this up!


The final 3 were Gase, DC, Doug Marrone. So Hot guy, your guy, and Marrone was the Best of the outside guys? Okay then...........!


I'm sure many were starting to warm to Gase. I really have nothing against him. The owner/ FO if any of this is true feel like a brick of cement around Gases neck. Wow.

[AquaXI]

Philbin only had Farve and Rogers to compare Tanehill to. He will never be them but hopefully a good game manager who has enough under the rightnsystem and supporting cast to take us. Philbin had crappy Coaches all hired because they were his buddies and not because they were the most qualified for the job, excluding Campbell. Philbin did not know how to adjust and was a deer in headlights with the same excuses every time they failed.

[Alpha]

My god, are we truly starting to pine for Milquetoast Joe already? He's now some underappreciated genius because he wanted Carr as a 1st rounder before he'd even had any chance to develop Tannehill? Carr's on a better team and had a whopping 2.3 point better QBR (with a real OL). Tannehill was sacked 50% more than Carr. Just think about that. Think it might knock 2-3 points off your QBR? Tannehill also threw for more yards on the season, completed a higher percentage and had a higher yards per attempt. Put Carr behind our OL with no J. James (since we couldn't have drafted him had we taken Carr). Let him suffer through 50% more sacks and all the hits protected by our garbage guards and Fox and then compare the two.

I see that Carr performed a tiny bit better on a better team with a much better line. Wow....that's clearly worth a first round pick. Milquetoast Joe would have had a dynasty, baby. Sheesh. Just f'in' smh.

[cuchulainn]

Right... and if this unsubstantiated rumor of an anonymous source is to be believed, Joe was going to throw Tannehill away after his 2nd season instead of coaching him up and developing him. Look around the league at players Philbin dumped who are playing well or on teams in the playoffs. Biggest mistake was Ross not dumping Joe after his 2nd season.

[DolphinsFreak]

This article is totally depressing. When I turn on the NFL Network and they are constantly making fun of the Miami Dolphins organization I will no longer get angry anymore. I now understand why this team is a complete and utter joke.

Not only does the front office believe that Tannehill is a franchise quarterback but they believe that Gase is the next Belichick, all because he studied film? AHAHAHA

Two Time winning Super Bowl Head Coach Mike Shanhan was overlooked because they felt he couldn't put a staff together? What BS! His scraps would have been better and far more experienced then anything Gase can string together.

Mike Smith "didn't fit" the organization?

WHY?

Out of ALL of the "25 candidates" out there the Dolphins top three candidates were the worst three of the bunch in my opinion.

It ALL comes down to TWO THINGS................................Ryan Tannehill and Tannenbaum's ego.

This entire organization has hitched their wagon to Ryan Tannehill and that wagon is full of fools gold, which is almost as heavy, so when this wagon hits that quicksand in 2016, heads SHOULD roll, but they won't. You Tannehill fans get to see your boy ruin another season, making it 6 straight, with the Dolphins picks in the top 10 three years in a row. Well, hopefully in 2018 there will be a quarterback that the new GM likes that will actually be NFL ready.

Conclusion - Fans really love to bring up Dan Marino. When ever you talk negatively about a Dolphins quarterback a defensive fan will say, "We don't need the next Marino, they only come around once in a lifetime." Well, if that's true, these same fans, and apparently the owner, need to come to the realization that they will never find the next Don Shula, all they can do is try and find a great coach who knows football inside and out and who can put a great staff together. A Head Coach is kind of like a president. He is more like a face man. You hire him because of the people he can put together and the plan he has to make things better. Gase is going to come to Miami will a junior college plan on how to fix things with a bunch of guys he assembles on the fly who have absolutely no experience in their NEW positions, and this will be a complete failure. This team will always be a failure until Ross either sells the team or if he comes to his senses and removes himself from ALL football decisions.

[hawkfinfan]

[QUOTE=Alpha;n14866]My god, are we truly starting to pine for Milquetoast Joe already? He's now some underappreciated genius because he wanted Carr as a 1st rounder before he'd even had any chance to develop Tannehill? Carr's on a better team and had a whopping 2.3 point better QBR (with a real OL). Tannehill was sacked 50% more than Carr. Just think about that. Think it might knock 2-3 points off your QBR? Tannehill also threw for more yards on the season, completed a higher percentage and had a higher yards per attempt. Put Carr behind our OL with no J. James (since we couldn't have drafted him had we taken Carr). Let him suffer through 50% more sacks and all the hits protected by our garbage guards and Fox and then compare the two.

I see that Carr performed a tiny bit better on a better team with a much better line. Wow....that's clearly worth a first round pick. Milquetoast Joe would have had a dynasty, baby. Sheesh. Just f'in' smh.

Alpha not pining for Philbin, But if you are an organization, you gain nothing by releasing inside info. The FO/owner needs to keep it's mouth shut.

[cuchulainn]

Much ado from an unsubstantiated rumor which does more to show why Joe should have been fired after his 2nd season than anything else IMO.

While I don't think Tannehill currently does anything at an elite level. I'd say the closest "elite" aspect would be his short and intermediate accuracy, specifically to outs and comeback routes, which have not been in the playbook much Lazor took over. I do think his deep ball accuracy is closer to the league average and has improved a lot since we dumped Wallace.

Carr vs Tannehill is not an apples to apples comparison and Tannehill has not been dealt a clean deck any year he's been in the league:

2012 - Davone Bess & Brian Hartline as primary weapons with Legadu Nanee signed as a WR off waivers (Philbin presiding)
2013 - Offensive line futility/bully gate/Mike Sherman (Philbin presiding)
2014 - Offensive line injuries, poor personnel and Mike Wallace (Philbin presiding)
2015 - More poor O-line personnel, tragic offensive design and play-calling which regressed from 2014 (Philbin/Lazor and Campbell presiding)

I hope with Gase running an offensive system that's based on what Tannehill does best, he should have his best season yet. Miami's OL personnel is not as good as the Bears or Bronco's with respect to the OL, so I expect some growing pains, but all things considered, I expect Tannehill to flourish under Gase. If he doesn't, you rid yourself of him prior to 2017 before the big money kicks in. But still, you have to give him a fair shake and I don't think he's had that yet.

YMMV.