An open letter to Dolphins Freak and others

[FinFan in KC]

An open letter to Dolphins Freak and others:

You were right. I was wrong. I have officially given up on Tannehill. He does not possess the two qualities I think are absolutely necessary for an NFL quarterback. The ability to quickly read a defense and find the open man and then get the ball to him accurately. He fails miserably at both. So I give up. You guys win. I was horribly wrong about Tannehill.

Yours truly,
FinFan in KC

[hawkfinfan]

[QUOTE=FinFan in KC;n13169]An open letter to Dolphins Freak and others:

You were right. I was wrong. I have officially given up on Tannehill. He does not possess the two qualities I think are absolutely necessary for an NFL quarterback. The ability to quickly read a defense and find the open man and then get the ball to him accurately. He fails miserably at both. So I give up. You guys win. I was horribly wrong about Tannehill.

Yours truly,
FinFan in KC[/QUOTEd

Sad thing is, and FREAK would agree. NO one wins Just need to move on. Keep looking until you find one.

[Mayhem]

The two things he's missing are nuggets.

[DolphinsFreak]

I agree with Hawk. We ALL lose because Tannehill sucks. ALL Dolphins fans lose. The only thing we can look forward to is that the new coaching staff will NOT give Tannehill the starting job and go after a quarterback early in the draft. Yes, the offensive line stinks but Tannehill is pathetic. When given the time he throws the ball way over receivers heads. He can NOT sense pressure! More then half of the sacks that occur because he stands still in the pocket while it's collapsing around him, when all he would have to do is step forward and/or run the ball. He can never sense pressure and that can't be taught. He has no touch. He is just NOT a quarterback. He is playing the wrong position. He doesn't have the tangibles to play the position, at any level, especially in the NFL.

It's time to move on from the Tannehill Project UNLESS you enjoy misery and losing seasons.

[Finatic]

What I am seeing is I am starting to question his intelligence. I mean seriously when he speaks it is kind of a slow talking delivery, but he just doesn't seem to know what to do. I think he would need a very good team around him to win. Remember since 2012 no on has been sacked more than he has. So that doesn't exactly give him much support.

[Alpha]

An open letter to Dolphins Freak and others:

You were right. I was wrong. I have officially given up on Tannehill. He does not possess the two qualities I think are absolutely necessary for an NFL quarterback. The ability to quickly read a defense and find the open man and then get the ball to him accurately. He fails miserably at both. So I give up. You guys win. I was horribly wrong about Tannehill.

Yours truly,
FinFan in KC

One other thing he's clearly missing - a line that will even move. I mean, we know they barely blocked all season, but that last play was a new low even for those losers.

[DolphinsFreak]

It made me laugh that the center was the only offensive lineman to move. That ONE PLAY was not Tannehill's fault. However, most of that line are 2nd stringers so for them to not know the snap count is somewhat understandable. Four Years of not knowing how to sense pressure, step forward in the pocket, run, etc. is not.

[Tarpon Guide]

If they worked on the line issues, the QB issues could work themselves out........but maybe not.

[Alpha]

I think Tannehill has been disappointing this year. He's played fair at best and I expected him to take the next step forward - so I'm not at all satisfied with what he's done. That said, our Line has been a MF Joke and I don't think there's a QB in the NFL who could be great behind it. I do expect the lynch mob to get their pound of flesh before long and Tannehill to be run out of town. He'll probably then become a very solid player for another team that actually has a line, a defense and coaches.

[ONole1]

I will still say you can win with Tannehill but you can't win because of him. Good defense, good O Line, and a power running game and Miami can win with him. Expecting him to throw the ball 30+ times and carry the team will result in 8-8 or worse...

[Phins169]

If the team can't count on their QB to throw it 30+ times and win at least a few games for them, then it is time to upgrade.

[marino4ever]

Phins I agree, but it should no be every game. The current MO of the staff is to move away from the run after 15 tries. I know there are two different camp within the forum about Thill. I think the new coaching staff should evaluate that, but I think he should have to compete for the job next year.

[Driven_Phinsane!]

I will still say you can win with Tannehill but you can't win because of him. Good defense, good O Line, and a power running game and Miami can win with him. Expecting him to throw the ball 30+ times and carry the team will result in 8-8 or worse...

Change that to 'GREAT defense, GREAT O-Line & a GREAT power running game' and i agree with this 100%...otherwise this team will always be 8-8 or worse, with my money on worse...

[Alpha]

Change that to 'GREAT defense, GREAT O-Line & a GREAT power running game' and i agree with this 100%...otherwise this team will always be 8-8 or worse, with my money on worse...

I don't think we can know that. In his career he has been sacked more than any QB in the NFL - we've never even seen him with even a decent OL. Until we see that we won't have any real idea of Tannehill's ceiling.

What we have seen is his "floor".

[HndRkyaBong34]

What we do know about RT is he has no pocket presence and even when he has time his accuracy falls short.... And to add to that, he stares down receiver's and has a hard time reading the defense.. After 4 seasons he shows poor leadership quality's and most of these short comings can not be coached.... He's our next Trent Dilfer.. Build around his weakness's..

[marino4ever]

I agree, but still think he should have to compete for the job next year. I think it is to soon to give up on him. I think the chargers did that with Brees and did not end up with the better QB.

[HndRkyaBong34]

Blain Gabbert can throw a better ball then RT and he's on the 9'er's... Blain Gabbert!

[Driven_Phinsane!]

I don't think we can know that. In his career he has been sacked more than any QB in the NFL - we've never even seen him with even a decent OL. Until we see that we won't have any real idea of Tannehill's ceiling.

What we have seen is his "floor".

We'll agree to disagree on that one..While obviously i'd never argue against the fact that he hasn't had a top-notch line to work behind while he's been here, i've seen enough to know that the problem isn't all on the line. Probably half RT's sacks could be blamed on him either holding the ball too long, trying to make a play or just not having enough awareness in the pocket. He has moderate to longball accuracy issues, he doesn't seem to be able to throw a receiver open, he has zero pocket presence, he's terrible on 3rd down efficiency & he sucks BIG-TIME in the 4th quarter and/or with the game on the line..

We can sit back and blame the line all we want and obviously it needs a MAJOR OVERHAUL, but if we're putting all of the blame on the line i think we're missing the bigger picture; Tannehill's just not a top tier NFL QB & won't be behind any line...

[DolphinsFreak]

Change that to 'GREAT defense, GREAT O-Line & a GREAT power running game' and i agree with this 100%...otherwise this team will always be 8-8 or worse, with my money on worse...

I agree with you. As I have stated a million times, I watch a ton of football, not just Dolphins games, and with all the injuries around the league I am seeing 2nd, 3rd and 4th string QB's come into the games and look better than Tannehill. People can make up all the excuses they want to but not every team in the league has an elite offensive line. Yes, the Dolphins offensive line stinks bad but when you watch tape on Tannehill and see what he does on the MANY plays that he does have time, he doesn't do anything with that time. He has been sacked more then any other QB ......but I would say that at minimum 40% of those sacks are his fault because the guy just can't sense pressure and has no idea when to move out of the pocket. He is just not a true quarterback. He is being forced to play out of position. It's like converting one of the better wide receivers in college and asking him to play cornerback. Wait! The Dolphins are already doing that with Lippett.

[cuchulainn]

I agree with both Shane and Alpha. Also, I have more respect for Tannehill now than ever before.

I don't know how anyone who is a Dolphin's fan isn't rooting for this guy. I don't think he'll ever being elite but I'm still high on him continuing to be above average and able to win a SB with a team around him - and by team, that does not mean an elite player at every position, it means competent starter. Tannehill is absolutely the toughest SOB at QB in the NFL and he is a much better QB than he is given credit for by many. It was reported he was pissing blood after last week's game. We saw him play with a bum ankle starting in the Jags game. We saw him get his throwing arm mangled a couple weeks ago, and yesterday he was leg whipped illegally and was taped up and still finished the game even though he was struggling to breath. A kidney injury can lead to blood in your piss as well as shortness of breath. This all speaks to his heart and his competitiveness that he didn't sit out the game even when he easily could have.

From my POV, Tannehill SHOULD be an easy guy to root for as he came from some humble beginnings and was not a big time college recruit. He busted his ass to make the TA&M team as a QB and then was asked him to move position and play some WR and without complaint he did. Then his first season the NFL, we were signing WRs off the scrap heap for him to throw to and since then he's played behind historically bad OLs. Still, he has progressed while getting beat to Hell every season. He busts his ass year round, has never missed a single game... and yet... fans hate him for the most part. I don't get the vitriol at all.

I do completely get people being upset with the season, which is why we fired multiple coaches, but games are won and lost in the trenches and you simply must have 3/5 of an OL to win games in the NFL. Our season was over when we lost James. We've just going thru motions since mid-season. But sure, put it all on the QB, he'll be here next season busting his ass again.

At least we're picking at #5. Let's hope we don't muff this draft or off-season.

YMMV.

[HndRkyaBong34]

We root for the Dolphins not for singular players.. RT is tough, and no one is denying that but time and time again we see him have a chance to win the game late with his arm and he falls short. We see him have enough time in the pocket and holds on to the ball to long. We see him try to throw to an open receiver down field and misses the target. Another thing that I see is RT has a hard time seeing the whole field, he looks down his #1 Receiver and is unable find #2 and #3 options. Another thing I see especially now, is he struggles rallying the player's around him, I don't see him taking control and making the players around him better.. I like RT and I've been rooting for him for 4 seasons now, he is tough, no doubt but being tough doesn't equate to solid play at the QB position...Who ever takes over I hope their 1st priority is to bring in another starting QB... For an overall evaluation my conclusion is the Dolphins have had a inept FO for so long this organization has become so top heavy they've lost sight in understanding how to build a winning team. If they don't cut down the dead wood up top then expect more of the same..JMHO.

[DolphinsFreak]

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In my opinion it's hard to understand why any Dolphins fan would still support this joke of a quarterback. He is obviously not a natural quarterback. He lacks so many quarterback traits that are unteachable and the things that are teachable he should already know, and he doesn't. He is NEVER going to take any team to the playoffs not just the Dolohins. Ryan Tannehill will NEVER take ANY team in the NFL to the playoffs. His only hope is the CFL. Rooting for a QB that in four years his best season is 8-8 is hard to phantom. Tannehill IS the Titanic and it confuses me why anyone would continue to support him. I would guess that 90 plus percent of the NFL has a hard luck story as to how they grew up and battled through tough times to make it in the NFL. Tannehill's story is tame compared to most in the league.

[AquaXI]

Thank you Cuch! what I was about to say.