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    If you would have asked me at the beginning of the season, I would have said NO, but he has improved...

    Of course they always do when it's signing time....

  • #2
    Originally posted by Seadog View Post
    If you would have asked me at the beginning of the season, I would have said NO, but he has improved...

    Of course they always do when it's signing time....
    Man, do you have the signing time thing correct. Albert Haynesworth may have been the worst. We hope Suh isn't the next DT to pull a Haynesworth. I guess you could throw Mike Wallace in there as well, with a little help from his QB here. Wallace isn't exactly Randy Moss in Minnesota, but that's not their game.

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    • #3
      If OV keeps playing like he did yesterday then I will be all for re-signing him.

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      • #4
        OV was also injured, not 100% earlier in the year playing banged up, was playing in Coyles scheme and suffered from Phailbinitis. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in just the Ravens game as OV was mostly against their back up LT but over the past few games he's played very well and did what a good DE should do to a back up LT. I've always been for signing OV long term but now with the HC up in the air and the possibly of a FO rebuild i don't see us trying to re-sign OV until those two things get sorted out first.

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        • London Fish & Chips
          London Fish & Chips commented
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          The DL has been playing much better since Coyle has left, this unit is by far the best on this team.

          Our problem is we have NO LB'ers, none nada zilch.....We really need to get the LB's fixed, if not all of them, we need at least an outstanding MLB

          I also believe Phillips is going to be a very good player, him and Suh, oh yea, we have that position wrapped up....

          Phillips, who had the only Dolphin sack early on was benched by Coyle, but everytime the guy is in there he makes things happen, and Suh is playing very good.
          Last edited by London Fish & Chips; 12-08-2015, 10:55 AM.

      • #5
        I think the Dolphins should wait and see how he plays out the season. I think they may want to see if he will play one more season with the Dolphins with a "prove it" type of contract for one year so he can try and play without injury. It might benefit both parties if this were to happen.

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        • #6
          I'm down for letting him walk....I dont think he's anything special...

          Where was this sack recognition when he was paired with Wake? Yes, he's getting a lot of 1:1 matchup with double to Suh. He's a compliment to a D, not a game changer....let someone else pay him 10 million a year and focus on getting more depth at the LB, CB and OL

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          • #7
            Originally posted by Bahamas View Post
            I'm down for letting him walk....I dont think he's anything special...

            Where was this sack recognition when he was paired with Wake? Yes, he's getting a lot of 1:1 matchup with double to Suh. He's a compliment to a D, not a game changer....let someone else pay him 10 million a year and focus on getting more depth at the LB, CB and OL
            That's what i say brov, if he's gonna command 'elite sack' fat-stacks, i let him walk..Most of the time he's nothing special; lazy (lazy probably isn't the right word, maybe unmotivated) & highly undisciplined - Unfortunately at times he stands out on our D which is more because our D sucks so bad and nothing really special he's doing...

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            • Bahamas
              Bahamas commented
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              Remember Mark Anderson....he played for the Pats in 2011...He was legit that year...getting 10 sacks...ironically, in a contract year.

              The Bills signed him to a fat contract 40 million over 4 years or something like that... and then released 2nd year in.

              Mark Anderson = OV

            • Bahamas
              Bahamas commented
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              If he plays in another system, where people actually have to account for him...he won't be an impact player.

            • London Fish & Chips
              London Fish & Chips commented
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              I believe a lot of player laziness is a result of bad coaches....

          • #8
            4. Olivier Vernon, DE, Miami Dolphins

            2014 grade: +13.7 in 850 snaps
            2015 grade: +28.1 in 718 snaps
            Vernon’s performances over the past two years have fluctuated from outstanding to terrible in three distinct periods. In the first eleven weeks of 2014, he recorded a +21.5 grade. From Week 12 of 2014 to Week 7 this year (12 games), he recorded a -11.9 grade. However, since Week 8 (when Cameron Wake went down for the year), Vernon has really responded. He has a +32.2 grade in just six games, including that matchup against New England. Vernon has recorded six sacks, 17 hits, and 17 hurries.
            He’s just overtaken Cameron Jordan as our highest-graded 4-3 defensive end, in terms of pass rushing alone. Vernon remains only an average run defender (+0.9), but he’s one of the hottest pass rushers at the moment.

            https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ayers-of-2015/

            Olivier Vernon, no sacks versus Philly, increasing his worth

            Olivier Vernon did not get a sack on Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles. But he made himself some money anyway.
            In one of the most quiet ways, the Miami Dolphins defensive end dominated Philadelphia left tackle Lane Johnson and was a key part of Miami's defensive dominance of the line of scrimmage the final three quarters of a 20-19 win.
            Vernon had six quarterback hits. He had a quarterback hurry. He also had four tackles, including two for loss. (He also had two missed tackles, and there's that for the sake of full disclosure). Generally he played very well.
            But because he didn't get a sack the only folks that will likely notice are people that watch tape -- the Dolphins organization. And, yes, other organizations.

            http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolph...his-worth.html



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            • #9
              Wake and OV are both lacking in run support, Wake doesn't even know the term, but it would help if we fire all the LB'ers and start over...., none of the LB'ers are worth a penny over a cup of water....

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