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    What a big mistake Jeff Ireland made drafting Dion Jordan instead of Ziggy Ansah. He now has 12.5 sacks 2nd in the NFL only behind JJ Watt. With Cam Wake's future uncertain and OV being a free agent, DE would not be a major need if we had Ansah. The decision to trade up from #12 and give up a 2nd round pick would have been well worth it had we drafted Ansah instead of Jordan.

  • #2
    Lions were robbed. That last play was not a face mask penalty.

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    • Idahomer
      Idahomer commented
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      It wasn't much, but he got his fingers in there and turned Rogers head. When it happened live I thought it looked a lot worse than when they slowed it down. But anytime you touch a QB's face mask you're more than likely going to get the flag. Even the defender looked like "oh shit" why did I do that when it happened.

  • #3
    At that moment it woulda look like a desperation move at 3 since Ansah was a major project with a potential for a high ceiling. I will admit the foreign Country athletes intrigue me with their hard work with the image in my head of coming from nothing and playing in impoverished environment. May not be true but it's what I envision.
    The deeper the roots, the higher the reach.

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    • #4
      Ansah (along with Tyler Eifert) was the guy i was pounding the table for on draft day but to be honest i remember when it was announced on draft day that we had traded up to the 3 spot i thought for sure it was for Lane Johnson..In hindsight i damn sure wish we would've either taken Ansah or maybe Sheldon Richardson...

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      • #5
        More hindsight drafting... remember that Dion Jordan was the consensus #1 overall defensive player in the 2013 draft. Ansah was considered raw. Ireland took the #1 defender and Coyles wasted him trying to turn him into what Ansah actually became.

        IMO, this is more about poor coaching decisions and not having a proper support system. Hoping Jordan comes back minus the weight Coyles had him pack on. Would love to see him back at OLB where he could flow and get back to being a dynamic playmaker like he was in college.

        We never seem to get it right with coaching or having a FO that is on the same page as the coaching staff. Hopefully that changes starting next season once we either extend Dan Campbell or hire a new HC who brings in his own staff that Tbaum picks.

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        • London Fish & Chips
          London Fish & Chips commented
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          OLB is where he should have been all along, once again, why can the fans see things that are so obvious, but oblivious to our coaches

        • cuchulainn
          cuchulainn commented
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          Coyles suffered from hubris... he always thought he knew best. Destroyed a top ranked defense. /sighs

      • #6
        Many coaches have been a part of a system that was successful at some point in their career. So they believe in the system and insist that the players adapt to their way of doing things. They then feel if the players aren't successful it is the players fault because they know their system worked at some time in their past.

        A good coach like Don Shula played defense and power running, controlling the clock and grinding it out. But when Marino fell to him, he pulled the trigger and he adapted to Marino's talent rather than attempting to make Marino into Earl Morral, Bob Griese or Johnny Unitas.

        That's the type of coach we need now. One that looks at this roster and says, what can these guys do well? Many on here have pointed out how immobile Tannehill is in our offense, yet we all know he can run and is a pretty good athlete, so why not take advantage of it?

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        • #7
          Originally posted by Phintim Menace View Post
          Many coaches have been a part of a system that was successful at some point in their career. So they believe in the system and insist that the players adapt to their way of doing things. They then feel if the players aren't successful it is the players fault because they know their system worked at some time in their past.

          A good coach like Don Shula played defense and power running, controlling the clock and grinding it out. But when Marino fell to him, he pulled the trigger and he adapted to Marino's talent rather than attempting to make Marino into Earl Morral, Bob Griese or Johnny Unitas.

          That's the type of coach we need now. One that looks at this roster and says, what can these guys do well? Many on here have pointed out how immobile Tannehill is in our offense, yet we all know he can run and is a pretty good athlete, so why not take advantage of it?
          So basically we need to look at grocery store and fast food restaurant managers for our next HC, if we're looking for someone to play to most of our players strengths, you know..bagging groceries and asking 'Would you like fries with that?', lol...

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          • #8
            Originally posted by Driven_Phinsane! View Post
            Ansah (along with Tyler Eifert) was the guy i was pounding the table for on draft day but to be honest i remember when it was announced on draft day that we had traded up to the 3 spot i thought for sure it was for Lane Johnson..In hindsight i damn sure wish we would've either taken Ansah or maybe Sheldon Richardson...
            Yeah if we wanted a DE we should have just taken Ansah. We could have stayed put at #12 and taken either Richardson or Eifert. Ireland sure out thought himself making that move to trade up for Jordan.

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            • cuchulainn
              cuchulainn commented
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              Odd thing is that he said that he, Philbin, AND Coyles all agreed that Jordan was the guy they wanted. They thought they could pack 30 pounds of muscle on him and make him versatile enough to play with his hand in the dirt and kept pushing him to do more/different things than what he already excelled at. Would love to get him back at OLB and have him flourish. We certainly need the LB help.

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