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  • Is it the players?

    Most of the discussion I see on here is centered around how our talent doesn't measure up. How our starters are not good enough at this position or that. Some positions all agree on like OG are our weakest. Some we disagree on like QB. Some of us were very optimistic going into this season based on the talent level on this team including virtually every NFL analyst in the world. Now we all lament we just don't have the talent.

    Going into this season, the Patriots had no OL, and lost 3 more of what they had. No starting RB and lost the best they had. No real WR just a slot guy and lost him. No starting CB. And yet, they are undefeated with a roster less talented than the Dolphins before they lost all their starters!

    In my opinion we don't have a lack of talent compared to any other NFL team. We have some positions that are weaker than others, so does everyone else. We have no coaching, from play design, schemes, teaching and understanding how to allow players to make plays using their talents and covering their weaknesses.

    Everyone agreed that Parker is an extraordinarily talented WR. Yet for 7 weeks he was healthy and we couldn't get him involved in the game plan. We kept saying, he missed too much time in the preseason. You have to be kidding me. This guy is a football player. Are you telling me he couldn't learn 7 of the Dolphins passing routes in 7 weeks? This raises the question of whether every player that comes to Miami doesn't understand how to play their own position? Or is Miami over complicating things taking players natural abilities away from them? It is obvious with such a glaring example like Parker, but the same thing is also true with every other player on the team. This is why when Pro Bowl players come here, they can't contribute and when our cast offs go somewhere else like NE, they become Pro Bowlers.

    In virtually every town in America there are high school football powerhouses. Every year, year in and year out they are contenders and often champions. Those players are 14 to 18 years old. Many having never played football at all before and they turn over their entire roster every 2 to 3 years. Yet somehow, like the Patriots, they are always contenders. The same thing is true in college football and the NFL. Then there are some teams, like the Dolphins, that are never contenders, they turn over the players every couple of years, with no improvement.

    We need professional winners on the coaching staff that are not just placeholders. They need freedom from management to create the proper systems to take advantage of the roster they have. They need a game plan each week to exploit the opponent's weaknesses and play to our roster's strengths. Like our opponents are doing to us now. I like Campbell, but I am tired of the Dolphins being the minor leagues of coaching. Bringing in guys you give their first chance at running a team to see if they may be something some day. We need a guy like Cowher or Gruden or Shanahan that have built successful teams in the NFL and know how to do it.

    Until that happens, the Patriots will always have the edge on us. We will draft and draft, and buy high priced free agents and still stay mediocre, year after year. We have been in this mode for 20+ years. That isn't the players, none of them have been on this roster for 20 years. Most of them hadn't started school yet 20 years ago. It isn't the players folks, it's the organization!

  • #2
    How true I believe this is. Miami has talent, but did, and still suffers from piss-poor coaching. Wannstedt, Saban, Sporano, Philbin all were horrible coaches while coaching Miami.

    Wannstedt started with a good team, with a decent record and drove them into the ground. He was going to kill Ricky Williams running him every play as a one trick pony. RW got tired of that and retired. A friend called me from Chicago when he learned Wannstedt was coming to coach Miami, and warned me he would do to Miami what he did to the Bears, and that was ruin them. He did.

    Saban got so frustrated with Miami, he went back to college football, and is doing great.

    Sporano was a complete idiot that pumped his fist and almost had an orgasm every time Miami kicked a field goal, but he still wasn't as bad as Philbin, the clueless buffoon.

    Philbin, need I say anything?

    Campbell is a WR coach, and lacks HC experience as of now. He has fire, and may make a good/great coach in the future, but right now, he is average at best due to his lack of experience.

    Miami even hired Jimmy Johnson as HC and Bill Parcells as "god of operations" at different times. Both had great records as HCs, but both failed miserably in Miami. Parcells got so fed up that he left before his contract was even up.

    So, maybe the common denominator in Miami's failure for the last 20 years is ownership and the front office.

    The wheels started falling off of the Dolphin wagon with Wayne Huizenga...

    Current ownership is Ross, but partners are Marc Anthony, Gloria and Emilio Estefan, Fergie, Serena and Venus Williams? Sounds like a bad gossip article out of the National Enquirer....Do they have any actual say in football, or just supplying financial support?

    Executives are Garfinkle, Tannenbaum, Hickey, Aponte and a few others. Who are they? Business people or football people? Tannenbaum was shit-canned from the NYJ organization, but everyone here thinks he's great.

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    • Wulf
      Wulf commented
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      You seem to have skipped Cam Cameron, who stripped the roster, trading away guys like Chris Chambers and Wes Welker, while outright cutting Randy McMichael ...

    • Tarpon Guide
      Tarpon Guide commented
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      Yes, I did. I guess I was mentally blocking him out for some reason. Another worthless attempt at a coach!!!

  • #3
    Few teams have what we look for. There's Pitt, Pats, GB, Balt, and maybe you want to include a couple others.

    So, I guess the keys to success are selling the team to the Rooney family, hiring a bad coach from Cleve while drafting a QB in the 6th round, sell the team to fans and pick a QB most teams passed on a le Dan, or hire a former TE who has no track record for personnel expertise.

    Other than selling to the fans as well as the Rooney family (have to split it), we can do all of this stuff in the off season. Super Bowl here we come.

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    • #4
      Originally posted by So Be View Post
      Few teams have what we look for. There's Pitt, Pats, GB, Balt, and maybe you want to include a couple others.

      So, I guess the keys to success are selling the team to the Rooney family, hiring a bad coach from Cleve while drafting a QB in the 6th round, sell the team to fans and pick a QB most teams passed on a le Dan, or hire a former TE who has no track record for personnel expertise.

      Other than selling to the fans as well as the Rooney family (have to split it), we can do all of this stuff in the off season. Super Bowl here we come.
      Maybe that's what they need to do. All other attempts have failed so far.....

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