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  • Wanted - a Head Coach that's been to the dance

    I think Dan Campbell might eventually turn into a good HC. But not now, not for us.

    He's a motivation coach...similar short of Herm Edwards. A players coach that has actually played in the NFL.

    In all honesty, we need to stop this...this approach that we think we will hire the next best thing. We tried this for the last 5 head coaches, and they all sucked. I'm sorry. Nope...it's true. We suck.

    Cam Cameron
    Tony S
    Joe Philbin
    Dan Campbell
    Nick Saban
    Jim Bates - interim
    Todd Bowles - interim

    I am not sure where the idea started floating around that OC, or even DC will take over and become the next best HC in the NFL....can you actually show me an instance that this has worked out? Outside of Mike Tomlin and McCarthy?


    So what I would like to request....Mr. Ross - is to fire eveyone. Even your beloved Mike Tannenbaum.

    Start a new with a coach that has actually been to the playoffs and actually has Head Coach experience in the NFL.

    Sean Payton makes a lot of sense...but's might not be availabel
    Chuch Pagano - been to a conference finals - I'll take it
    Mike Smith - Been to the playoffs for a few years - i'll take it
    Jim Mora - been to the playoffs
    Mike Shannhan - won and been to the playoffs

    This is where i would begin. We know Chuckie or Cowher will not leave their TV gigs...so by that rule, I have eliminated them.

    vent over...breathe....kalik, rinse, repeat



  • #2
    IMO, we need a true Miracle Worker...I heard they offered the job of turning this franchise into a winner to Jesus Christ but he turned them down saying "I may be able to walk on water...But, even i'm not that good!"

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    • #3
      I am on board with you brov, and I have been saying Mike Shanahan is my top choice and I haven't waivered...

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      • Bahamas
        Bahamas commented
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        Shannhan would be ideal brov. His O actually caters very well to RT abilities. Also add into the mix, he use to coach at the U...

        Bring him home.

    • #4
      They tried that with Bill Parcells didn't they? Didn't work out so well, did it? Something about the Dolphins causing all coaches since Shula to fail. I'm willing to try it again, but there are only retreads to work with....No coach now wants to go with "The Evil Empire" now.

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      • Bahamas
        Bahamas commented
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        Parcells was never our coach...he picked an OLine coach to be our next head coach from Dallas

      • Tarpon Guide
        Tarpon Guide commented
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        No, but he was made god of football operations or something like that, and failed miserably.

    • #5
      I'm really starting to wonder 'does it really matter who we bring in???'..I mean really, this team is pretty much in total shambles, our F.O. and it's structure is a total joke, our whole roster outside a handful of guys is devoid of talent across the board..For the most part our starter's would be reserves on good teams and a good many of them would be hard-pressed to make the final 53 elsewhere, our so-called 'depth' players should be bagging groceries somewhere & the culture of losing is embedded into this whole franchise to the core...

      Not sure there's anyone alive that can assume the role as HC of this mess and change this, at least not in the next 4-5 years...

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      • Bahamas
        Bahamas commented
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        It does my friend.

        I can understand your frustration....trust me, I think everyone here feels it too. That's why I am advocating for someone who has been to the dance....not someone that one day believes that he can get there

    • #6
      The RAT!!!!

      https://instagram.com/p/-eSFr6hZukTR...PFlI64gZhHxM0/

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      • #7
        College coach I'd hire, Mark Dantonio. He has kept his staff together at Michigan State, almost intact, for 11 years. They get the most out of their talent, can scheme against anyone and work well together to formulate an overall game plan. they've put out more NFL talent in the last five years than the Dolphins have been able to assemble in the last ten.
        Only ex head coach I like in your list is Shanahan. Payton is not leaving New Orleans and Pagano I'd take as a DC.
        One coordinator in the NFL is standing out head and shoulders above the rest at this point, especially where the Dolphins are concerned. He's taken a young, undisciplined QB with no pro style offensive experience and turned him into a juggernaut. He's directed his offense to the top of the NFL and his team is 10-0. He comes from the Don Shula coaching tree. As a matter of fact, he comes from the Don Shula coaching loin. Now may be the perfect time, as he's ripened his way up from QBs coach to offensive coordinator and shown he now truly gets it. We could use a man, a name that has trust built into it from the get go. Head coaching experience or no head coaching experience, he has to be considered. MIKE SHULA.

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        • #8
          I have no opinion on a new coach because I have my doubts on anyone VG having any interest in this mess of interference from the top. I believe we will have to settle for someone once again and hope to get lucky.

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          • Bahamas
            Bahamas commented
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            It all depends on how much house cleaning Ross will do....if Tannebaum stays, then I agree with you.

        • #9
          How can you judge Campbell with this roster? And with this D Coordinator? He was handed a crappy situation. For as much as many would love to say we have great talent, we don't. We have a little great talent (Wake, Landry, Suh, Jones, Grimes) some good talent (Matthews, Tannehill, Miller, Albert) and a whole bunch of third string players. Very spotty and not a winning roster. I think Campbell is getting the most out of this crappy group. I would be just fine keeping him and giving him a whole off season to shape his coaching staff and get more talent before I judge him.

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          • Bahamas
            Bahamas commented
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            Brov - I understand what you are saying

            BUT
            He's a motivational speaker...that is getting the best out of the players - which is more than Philbin did.

            But do you honestly believe he has a draft philosophy? Can he out coach Billy boy/

            Hell no

          • phinfanfrom70s
            phinfanfrom70s commented
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            that is my thoughts exactly finatic!
            all coaches better be a motivational speaker to some degree and there's more there than that there in d campbell.
            what coach right now has out coached -billy boy an a regular basis?
            no one knows his draft philosophy,so know one can truely say that!
            retreads,unproven HC 's are all a crap shoot! some successful coaches have gone to other teams and failed
            what's the average coach life in the nfl,only a hand full have been with their team for a extended period!
            since 2000 belechick is the only coach still coaching the same team, 14 years shanahan had at denver!
            it's all a crap shoot!

        • #10
          I question Campbell on having the ability to bring a quality staff to the team, which I believe he cannot do. IMO, they are more important than he is, and would add the FO set up as well. As far as talent, Suh and Jones are great talent. Wake and Grimes are very likely gone, and Landry is a VG slot receiver, nothing more.

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          • Bahamas
            Bahamas commented
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            Well said on the quality staff....mon.

            Landry is a little more than a slot receiver brov.

        • #11
          Originally posted by Finatic View Post
          How can you judge Campbell with this roster? And with this D Coordinator? He was handed a crappy situation. For as much as many would love to say we have great talent, we don't. We have a little great talent (Wake, Landry, Suh, Jones, Grimes) some good talent (Matthews, Tannehill, Miller, Albert) and a whole bunch of third string players. Very spotty and not a winning roster. I think Campbell is getting the most out of this crappy group. I would be just fine keeping him and giving him a whole off season to shape his coaching staff and get more talent before I judge him.
          That's kind of what interim means though, basically a 'fill-in' 'til you find the real thing...I don't think anyone believes anybody can be fairly judged when they inherit a steaming pile of crap that they had no input on assembling, but that's really not the issue..If Philbin had been fired at the end of last season (as he should've been) DC wouldn't have even applied for the job and if he would've ridiculously thought he had the credentials and put his name out there he wouldn't have even gotten an interview; there's a reason that people have to pay their dues & move up the ranks..It's a process with a stiff learning curve..

          So as an interim coach who's just keeping the seat warm he's had his 15 minutes,, let's not waste alot of time overthinking this and get on with finding a real HC...

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          • #12
            Well, that's the dilemma. Can we keep Campbell and bring in two qualified coordinators. It seems the names we like would say, "What makes Campbell more qualified than me to be the Head Coach? I think I'll wait it out and if I can't get a Head Coaching job in the NFL or college, maybe I'll call." I agree with you, Finatic. What HC candidate will be comfortable working under this front office? Their reputation is on the line and the Miami Dolphins front office is a joke when it comes to acquiring talent. If they do draft a star, their system can't find a place for him on the field (Devante Parker).

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            • #13
              Billick went and won a Super Bowl yet Ross was not interested when he hinted about the job. Good thing it's Tannenbaum making the decision. Still it ain't much but better than Ross mingling into the football business.
              The deeper the roots, the higher the reach.

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              • #14
                Originally posted by Aquaaiea View Post
                Billick went and won a Super Bowl yet Ross was not interested when he hinted about the job. Good thing it's Tannenbaum making the decision. Still it ain't much but better than Ross mingling into the football business.
                I'd still take Billick, he's better than anyone else we've had since the Shu.
                While it takes two to have an argument, it only takes one to walk away.

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                • Bahamas
                  Bahamas commented
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                  Been out of the game a lil too long brov...Just my thoughts....he built a legit D and all of his assistance are still in the NFL. So i can see where you are coming from

                • Dolfan1
                  Dolfan1 commented
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                  Yep, he's been on the sidelines a long time but I still think he'd be better than most of the names we will be hearing as "Available" and as Aqua alluded to, he hinted he'd like to be in Miami some years ago.

              • #15
                I think the fact is that there will be several coaching positions opening up in the off season. Are we the best team of choice for candidates? We lose out every time on the "hot" coaching candidates because they don't want to come here. We are hearing it is an organizational issue with too many chiefs. So where does that leave us? I disagree with the assessment that assistants won't come here because they think they are better than Campbell. I think people respond to this guy and WANT to be a part of his team. Also if they think they are in line to be a head coach soon what better place to be then where you could move up quickly if Campbell fails? There is a leadership quality about Campbell. I think if we finish strong, he could get the job. And by the way how long did it take for Belichick to find his groove? Only one winning season in Cleveland and his first season in NE he was 5-11.Shula's first year in Miami. I think Dan deserves a good hard look by people who are around his practices, know the adjustments he makes and strategies he deploys and can evaluate how he is doing. Maybe he is getting a lot more out of these guys then we appreciate. We are a competitive team where we haven't been.

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