The case AGAINST Dan Campbell for HC

[IMAWriter]

Simply, he's not ready yet. An 8-8 record is not indicative of his true worth. There could be a game, even 2 at the end of the schedule, particularly the Colts and Patriots, where starters for both would be pulled, and Luck may not even play.

He has apparently been confused several times on decisions as regards down and distance penalty calls, has butchered time management (with a bit of help from Rizzi), and looked out of it against the Patriots..I guess understandable. My biggest issue is his apparent willingness to allow Lazor to dial up some truly head scratching play calls...runs when perhaps a pass would be the call, and vice versa. Of course, My opinion is that of an amateur with only
"little guy" football coaching experience.

Campbell's mantra from the start was to play tougher, meaner, just THIS side of the rules, etc. Sounds like a tough, hard nosed run game would be the plan. Other than the Titan's game, and a bit against the Texans (yes, that was a Tannehill moment) there has been no real commitment to the run game, until the Eagles game. Even then, the Dolphins could do little with 5 minutes to go, and helped the Eagles with clock stoppage. Where was the fire from the O-Line to push, and protect?

So, do we want a coach who must "learn on the gig?"
I'm still leaning towards a YES on Campbell IF he finishes impressively at 8-8 or better, and muscles Lazor a bit more.
Confused?
Yeah, me too.

[AquaXI]

He might just be Tannenbaums guy. We know who now calls the shots. As far as time management and learning the rules, those can be accelerated and pounded into his head in the off season. He got the respect of the players and that goes a long ways. We all know it's all in acquiring talent and motivating them to the fullest.

[HndRkyaBong34]

I get the feeling Dan Campbell is not as tough as he appears... It seems he being persuaded by Lazor and Rizzi and not being true to himself... Does he know enough about time management? When to call time outs? Does have an offensive mind to understand the importance of play calling and what to call on what the defense is giving? I don't think so... As a fan, do I want a (on the job training) coach? NO! But if he can motivate this team to get to 9 wins then I have no choice then to give him a chance to grow....

[phinfanfrom70s]

I just don't understand the thought process by some as it pertains to dan campbell!
dan campbell has been exposed to more than one or 2 offensive play books,and involved in implicating that on to the field as a player!
I think that makes him a person that understands offenses probably more than every weekend quarterback expert here!
he has been on nfl sidelines in many games and first hand experienced time out situations as a player,but not as a coach,so he understands it. as a new coach you have 50 things running through your head,so he might make a mistake here and there,the thing he should be judged on is if he is learning and not repeating the mistakes over and over!
even seasoned coaches make mistakes on occasions, because at times so much is happening in a short period of time and your required to make snap decisions that ,through time, MANY EXPERIENCED COACHES have not made the right calls, but they where still considered good enough to continue being a coach in the nfl!
it seems to me that dan campbell is being judged by some that if he missteps or if he loses a game ,or the play calling isn't stellar or the right play called it's all dan campbell's doing or failure make sure thing go perfect. this isn't his hand picked team and he took over 4 games into the season and in my opinion he has done a stellar job ,not perfect but stellar in lue of the state of the team at the time of his taking over.

[Wulf]

Simply, he's not ready yet. An 8-8 record is not indicative of his true worth. There could be a game, even 2 at the end of the schedule, particularly the Colts and Patriots, where starters for both would be pulled, and Luck may not even play.

He has apparently been confused several times on decisions as regards down and distance penalty calls, has butchered time management (with a bit of help from Rizzi), and looked out of it against the Patriots..I guess understandable. My biggest issue is his apparent willingness to allow Lazor to dial up some truly head scratching play calls...runs when perhaps a pass would be the call, and vice versa. Of course, My opinion is that of an amateur with only
"little guy" football coaching experience.

Campbell's mantra from the start was to play tougher, meaner, just THIS side of the rules, etc. Sounds like a tough, hard nosed run game would be the plan. Other than the Titan's game, and a bit against the Texans (yes, that was a Tannehill moment) there has been no real commitment to the run game, until the Eagles game. Even then, the Dolphins could do little with 5 minutes to go, and helped the Eagles with clock stoppage. Where was the fire from the O-Line to push, and protect?

So, do we want a coach who must "learn on the gig?"
I'm still leaning towards a YES on Campbell IF he finishes impressively at 8-8 or better, and muscles Lazor a bit more.
Confused?
Yeah, me too.

Despite all of these (mostly) valid points, IF Campbell were hired in the off-season, we would have the ability to get some coordinators, and assistants who could actually do THEIR jobs...
No matter WHO the HC is for 2016, we simply MUST get some sort of OL staff and roster assembled...

[Phintim Menace]

This is where I am too. I think most of the remaining problems are with the coordinators and assistants. The H.C. is the leader and sets the team philosophy which I like Campbell in that roll. But as long as Lazor is designing and calling the offense, you aren't going to see any major changes no matter who the head coach is.

[Driven_Phinsane!]

I would go out on a limb (maybe a twig) here & say that DC stands little to zero chance of becoming the Dolphins next HC in 2016, barring some miracle with us finishing this season with a playoff berth...He may be a great HC one day but as i've stated before (my opinion only) that day is definitely not today and i think Ross will once again try to make a splash with some BIG NAME...

[IMAWriter]

I would go out on a limb (maybe a twig) here & say that DC stands little to zero chance of becoming the Dolphins next HC in 2016, barring some miracle with us finishing this season with a playoff berth...He may be a great HC one day but as i've stated before (my opinion only) that day is definitely not today and i think Ross will once again try to make a splash with some BIG NAME...

I tend to agree with you that Ross will again insinuate himself...for all the wrong reasons...in the process to select a new coach. As some of us have stated, it's all about the staff, whomever coaches. That shlouldn't be a problem $$ wise, as Ross is willing to spend, and Tannebaum has always had a penchant for spending the boss' money.

[Wulf]

I would go out on a limb (maybe a twig) here & say that DC stands little to zero chance of becoming the Dolphins next HC in 2016, barring some miracle with us finishing this season with a playoff berth...He may be a great HC one day but as i've stated before (my opinion only) that day is definitely not today and i think Ross will once again try to make a splash with some BIG NAME...

Barring a successful campaign, I would have to agree. I can't help but hope that we've learned our lesson about trying to get the "big names" though,
especially since landing one would also likely require a major redistribution of the power within the organization.